Today on "Meet the Press", Ralph Nader announced that he will be running for president as a third-party candidate. Again.

Hooray?

Dammit.

Monica Lewinsky's ex's wife for President?
When you say you are a strong woman and use tears as a tool for votes you loose integrity.

Why? He'll never win. I don't think he'd pull away many votes either, if that's what people are worried about. Just ignore him/it.

The Huck was pretty funny on SNL last night.

This is like his third time running isn't it? I say his time is over and should just stop. Now if some big actor announced they were running as a third party candidate, then maybe it would make a difference but this guy has tried for too long.

He should run as Lyndon LaRouche's running mate. Or vice versa.

He's not running to win. He's running to force the Democratic nominee to embrace his agenda. But I don't really think he's ever had any impact on a presidential election. Seriously. (Gore lost in 2000 because his campaign sucked.)

And that frightening kiss w/ Tipper.

I was just about to post the same thing till I read yours.


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That one almost beat out Michael Jackson & Lisa Marie Presley for "Least Convincing/Most Awkward Public Kiss Ever".

I thought Lisa Marie was hot up until she let that touch her tips.

Didn't Gore win in 2000? *cough*SUPREMECOURT'D*cough*

I also found this interesting article about the demise of the Clinton campaign
linky

Lolz...cute video linked from that article.

http://slatev.com/player.html?id=1377935786

I'm surprised nobody's talked about the Clinton/Obama debate last week. I watched most of it. He pretty much owned her, and basically forced her to stop doing as much politician talk and actually state what her frigging opinion/plan was on a few issues here and there.

I noticed he seems to take more notes than her, but I could be wrong...

Of course, nobody disputes that he won the popular vote. But it wouldn't have come down to Florida if Gore had been able to do stuff like win his own home state...

I was under the impression Gore still lost even after it was "SUPREMECOURT'D" when they continued to count away.

If that's the case, why do people still say that G.W.Bush "stole" the election in 2000? That election was legit, wasn't it?

Because they don't want him to be president?

What? You're kidding, right? If you're not being sarcastic, that's awfully childish.

They didn't. The recounting was stopped. The earlier counts were never completed in full.

All those people who were for Gore that kep on counting anways didn't exist? While not official he still lost.

*shrug* I thought Gore conceded at some point. So not sure what the Supreme Court business even was, but that woulda been an order to halt further recounting, no? So why would it've mattered how many people kept counting? If the judiciary says it doesn't matter, who's gonna overturn them?

Not arguing with you.

SM-Drewbie is not being childish, that's just how hot and contested it was.

Gore did win the popular vote nationwide by about 500,000, not counting the 500 or so in Florida that may or may not have been counted by someone post-election. He lost the Electoral College vote.

A guy at a Q&A session with Gore.

But the security at a Q&A session with Gore, and their tasers will support the SC.

Hehehehe..

The Supreme Court handed Bush the presidency by halting the recount before it was completed. But again, it wouldn't have needed to come to that if Gore had run a more effective campaign.

and BTW there is a Democratic debate in Ohio tonight, on MSNBC. Should be interesting, given Clinton's recent streak towards Obama.

Aaaaand the hits just keep on comin'...

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-endorse-obama/

whoops

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/53014.html

It's as if the Clinton campaign is trying to shoot itself in the face...

I was expecting to see Shill tackle him afterwards and start coughing again.

I showed that to my friend, and he pointed out that slip isn't nearly as odd as when Condi almost called Bush her husband.

Re: The Ohio debate...what's with this Meet the Press guy?

"Would you leave Iraq if they made you?"
"Yes."
"But then, if they made you leave, would you go back if you had to?"
"Based on the parameters of your bizarre hypothetical - maybe."
"Would you use ninjas?"
"Yes?"
"But then what if those ninjas turned on you?"

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You mean Timmy? I saw that too. I was laughing when both Clinton and Obama both agreed that some troops would stay behind (as I always knew that would be the case no matter who is President). The reason I found it funny was because a co-worker was telling me up and down that ALL troops would be coming home, not one would be left behind if either of them are elected. Then again he also believed that Bill only cheated on Shillary once until I proved him wrong on that too.

I should start making him cash bets on this stuff.

I did find it really funny when Brian Williams basically said STFU to Shillary, we gotta take a commerical break. TIVO'd.

Is there any reason in particular that you only give Clinton a special pet name, or are you just a misogynist?

That name doesn't imply any kind of misogyny, to be fair. If a woman called John McCain "McCrap," would that be unquestionably considered misandry? No.

Not every man that dislikes Clinton is a misogynist, and not every white person that dislikes Obama is a racist, etc. Making broad generalizations based on someone calling a political candidate a generic-ish derogatory name makes me want to send you a "Jump to Conclusions" mat.

Hmm, maybe I should've emphasized "broad" up there, so as to go for the easy pun...

Of course, given that most national-level politicians are white males, Haggisjin does have a point. Clinton *is* the first female candidate for president. Even Obama is only the third African-American senator since *Reconstruction*, for a little historical perspective there.

I fail to see the point of Haggisjin's comment other than to be outraged, and the last damn thing we need in a political discussion is manufactured outrage.

That seems to be another in the long line of indictments of the great unwashed masses, as though either of these two candidates got as far as they did in spite of what the country at large thinks rather than because of. Yeah, there's alot of long-standing barriers being broken down on the Democratic side of things (and, to be fair, the Republican side...it seems control of the party has mercifully been wrested from the Neo-Cons), but who is responsible for the history being made, the candidates or the people voting for them?

I think it's both.

BTW, IMO, denounce > reject.

FARRAKHAAAAAAN!!!

A Misogynist?...oh a perfect time to use my Big Daddy comment...

"LOL, ur stupid"... (That should be a smiley now).

Everyone should have a pet Starscream like Shillary. Look at the benefits, you can put a muzzle on her and even when she goes into heat you won't have to worry about the males species wanting any...

Seriously it sounds like Jerrod may have nailed it.

Saddly though I may have to start calling her Billary...

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BTW I'd vote for Condi in heartbeat.

maybe the discussion would be better served if we discussed the positions and policies proposed by the candidates and not tried to make a bunch of snide comments and pretending we are clever.

Calling a canidate a monkey(or dog or something) that needs a muzzle - doesn't really address anything that means anything.

And yet this is the level of public discourse we see in national politics. 527'D

I was being extremely sarcastic but I'm pretty sure you already knew that.

I was just pointing out that he consistently only gives Clinton the little nicknames. It's something I've noticed elsewhere as well. Sure, Obama gets plenty of the "Osama Hussein" crap, and that is obviously motivated by racism.

I'm simply stating that calling a female senator running for president "Hillary Clinton", or as he previously called her, "Shrillary", isn't productive. It's obviously motivated by a mmisogynistic dislike of her.

FWIW, I really don't like Hillary as a candidate, but that's based on her positions rather a nickname implying that she's a shrill sounding old woman.

edit: Ooooh... swear filtered?