I do update it every time there's a primary result....

Another option would be to explain why the Hilary haters have got it wrong instead of just deciding to avoid opposing viewpoints.

I may despise Bush. But even I find it empty and gheytastic when people use any little thing he does, no matter how inconsequential, as an excuse just to spit their venom. No matter what Hillary says or does however trivial, you guys're determined to hold it up as an example of "how much she sucks/blows", so what is the point of anyone else listening?

Makes me think twice when my fellow Obama-supporters say only uneducated ignorants in the middle of nowhere are supporting Hillary..

And the race is still tight-ish. So there are plenty of Hillary supporters out there who have plenty of reasons for backing her.

I guess

You'll notice that it hasn't stopped ROSEDOGGYDOGG.

If you want some serious problems I have with her, here you go:

1. As secretive as Bush, preferring loyalty over skill
2. Triangulation as a political strategy
3. Refusal to admit mistakes (also Bush-esque)
4. Pushing "35 years of experience" when her primary claim to fame is First Lady
5. Inability to do ANYTHING about universal health care, despite championing it for 15 years
6. Horribly unfashionable pantsuits

Who said that?

Yeah, that's something I've never heard. I know a lot of those backwoods people.


(They're voting for Huckabee)

Maybe that's their (uneducated, ignorant) way of saying that part of Clinton's base of support has been the "Wal-Mart" demographic; i.e. white blue-collar folks making <$50K a year. But Obama did win that demographic in Wisconsin last night...

Apparently, most of the asians, latinos, and other non-black minorities are supporting Clinton. They seem to dislike Obama (or his constituents) for a multitude of reasons, some of which I find as equally vapid as the ones for which people hate Hillary.


1. Secretive in what way?
2. Although not in your case, "triangulation" just seems like a pejorative term used by those who dislike a moderate position.
3. Understandable, though seems oversimplified.
4. She has been involved in politics well both before and after her tenure as First Lady. And she was also a presidential appointee during her husband's administration. Not an elected office, but she was no less an appointee than any other position in the Executive.
5. I'm told Obama hasn't been on any of the senate committees or pushed any major political achievements either (I haven't verified, mostly because I don't care if he has or hasn't).
6. Can't help ya there.

There are also lots of possibly valid criticisms against Obama by Clinton-supporters (though I don't tend to agree with most of them). But Obama and Clinton have infinitely more differences with the closest Repub candidate than they do with each other. The only notable difference between Obama and Clinton to me is their charisma.


One of the groomsmen for my brother's wedding this past weekend, while we were talking politics. But then he's a Texan and in the military.

Wow, nice way to stereotype two groups of people!

Oh, I thought you meant someone in this thread.

Thanks!
My brother's in the military as well. They're both officers and graduates of one of the US military academies. And I was just putting a disclaimer on it so that the statement wouldn't be taken as "this was said by a model individual representing 'the average demographic'".

Yeah, that really helped you out...

Texans in the military are a demographic representing the majority of the country? Or the majority of Obama-supporters?

I only meant that your disclaimer had the effect of making Texans / military people seem like doofuses.

we ain't got too much book larnin', but we's got smarts







P.S. Clinton's new campaign slogan is "Get Real"

seriously

Mosta the Texans I've known (to any degree greater than "stranger") have been pretty intelligent and educated.

A lot of them are from out-of-state.

<_<

Oh, that's appropriate.

OMG

Isn't that lifted from the "Real World"?

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WHOA, WHOA lets just hold on there...I haven't said "LOL, you're stupid" and gave no reason. I only said "what's with the Clampdown voting".

Why I was drug into this is beyond me but okay.

I have real reasons to dislike her.

1. LOL
2. she's
3. stupid

Okay seriously, I do have my reasons as I truely do believe that she is corrupt and given the opportunity she'll hurt us more than Bush ever could. The more I learn of her and her "ambitions" the more I see reason to worry if she cheats her way to being the President (God forbid). Maybe it just me but I would like her at least try to stick to something without changing her position on the subject besides being President.

On a side note if Obama some survives the Clinton death threats and becomes the President I don't see that being a bad thing. I would truely give a wait and see approach to him.

I'm just sad that my guy is getting his butt kicked (Huckabee) but I'll live.

oh crap

I didn't mean it that way... I meant "hey, don't stop posting stuff that's contrary to the majority opinion; ROSE... is still doing it." Looking at my post again, I can see how it would have come off the way you read it.

My bad.

All that pic needs is a little sh!tc0ck.

That picture *is* awesome.

*saves*

*thinks about the last 8 years*

Is that even possible?

I think so. Bush is mainly responsible for hurting people outside the US.

Ted Kennedy came today to my city (Laredo) and sang "Jalisco" to the crowd full version hope someone youtubes it. Hillary Clinton gets here in the morning. If she really wants my vote she should have a shot of tequila

The monarchy has to end sometime, and that sometime has to be now.

EAT THE WORM

Well if she would have done that when her husband was President they would have saved themselves a whole lot of trouble.

Now...who's scarred for life?

Well, for anyone who hasn't heard, the NY Times is running a story about McCain and some female lobbyist... he's at a news conference right now about it. The thing is, the story doesn't actually claim that he had a relationship with her, just that his aides were concerned about the appearance of impropriety... nevertheless, it's this big deal now and he's at a microphone in front of a lot of reporters with his wife at his side. Not the kind of imagery any politician wants.

One more nail in the coffin of journalism. Gotta love the national paper of record blowing up all the other media outlets with hearsay.

As opposed to all the nuts in the blogosphere?

Eh, I've never considered a blog anything close to journalism. To me, it breaks down like this:

Blog:extreme left-wing rhetoric::talk radio:extreme right-wing rhetoric.

Conservatives know how to use the INTERNET too...

And Air America Radio is still around (or is it?), but we all know the Conservatives own talk radio.

Of course, that doesn't automatically mean that the blogosphere has to be dominated by liberals.

I prefer to deal in generalities rather than go look for a Conservative blog or Liberal talk radio. I'd rather listen to/read strident opinions about things that won't end up destroying society, like TV and sports.

Yeah, but they prefer to use a different internet than everyone else, which can create the illusion that they're not chillin' in cyberspace with the rest of us.

And Tom Leykis is the radio talk show NOT hosted by a right wing wacko. Or a convicted felon, for that matter. No! Tom is your host. And he will remind you of that every hour on the hour.




A little more on topic, Obama has won the "Democrats Abroad" primary, consisting of 'Crats not currently in the country. 11 wins in a row.

Wait, so you're saying Tom and Ray Magliozzi, a.k.a Click and Clack, a.k.a. the Tappet Brothers, are either right wing wackos and/or convicted felons? Say it ain't so!

I'll get back to you on that as soon as I google "Tom and Ray Magliozzi" and figure out what you're talking about.

For the record, I have no idea what talk radio host is or might be a convicted felon, but Leykis seems pretty sure that "felon" is a category for at least one of his contemporaries.

Excellence in journalism. Love it.

The Car Talk guys. And by "felon," I assume you mean Garrison Keillor, who once drowned a man in Lake Wobegon.

I'm trying to picture that

I think Phil Collins wrote a song about that.

And he invited Keillor to a concert, sat him in the front row, and sang the song while staring directly at him.

But did he let Garrison play his kickass drum set?