QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Feb 7 2008, 09:47 AM) 
QUOTE (ROSEDOGGYDOG @ Feb 7 2008, 09:44 AM)
And yet Ron Paul holds strong to hope.
He may actually get some debate time.
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And yet Ron Paul holds strong to hope.
He may actually get some debate time.
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Feb 7 2008, 12:06 PM)
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 7 2008, 11:28 AM)
From the "My Ears... They Bleed" department:
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/...rest_until.html
Listen to it here... if you dare
http://lists.pearljam.com/Roust/rock_around_barack.m4a
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/...rest_until.html
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Pearl Jam Will Not Rest Until John McCain Is Elected President
Pearl Jam, "Rock Around Barack"
Pearl Jam pledge their unwavering support to the Republican party with this cringe-worthy campaign song, which is so corny it's practically guaranteed to hurt Obama's chances.
Pearl Jam, "Rock Around Barack"
Pearl Jam pledge their unwavering support to the Republican party with this cringe-worthy campaign song, which is so corny it's practically guaranteed to hurt Obama's chances.
Listen to it here... if you dare
http://lists.pearljam.com/Roust/rock_around_barack.m4a
WTF they hate bush.
It's a joke. You know, because the song is so terrible...
That's hilarious.
I've been enjoying this song that's seriously in support of Obama.
http://www.dipdive.com/
I've been enjoying this song that's seriously in support of Obama.
http://www.dipdive.com/
Crying to Romney 
From CNN.com:
CYA Romney.
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“Barack and Hillary have made their intentions clear regarding Iraq and the war on terror. They would retreat and declare defeat,” said Romney.
“And the consequence of that would be devastating. It would mean attacks on America, launched from safe havens that make Afghanistan under the Taliban look like child’s play. About this, I have no doubt.”
“And the consequence of that would be devastating. It would mean attacks on America, launched from safe havens that make Afghanistan under the Taliban look like child’s play. About this, I have no doubt.”
CYA Romney.
...He's an idiot. A. Complete. Powerglideing. Moron.
I MAEK POATS
That. Is. Hilarious.
ZOMG 
BTW, the Obama hussian thing makes me want to cry.
BTW, the Obama hussian thing makes me want to cry.
QUOTE (I.S.T. @ Feb 8 2008, 09:58 AM)
ZOMG 
BTW, the Obama hussian thing makes me want to cry.
BTW, the Obama hussian thing makes me want to cry.
welcome to interwebs political ignorance... it's the purest form
It makes me wish I had the ability to reach through my computer screen and punch people in the nuts/vag.
Dial-up even.
Well they were here yesterday, I was surprised to hear on the Radio yesterday morning the our Governor Christine Gregoire was supporting Obama after all the help Shillary gave Gregoire in stealing the last Governor election here. These people must eat their young. Heck I might vote for Obama just so I can vote against the Shill even its the only time this year.
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I should mention, last night watching Real Time with Bill Maher there was a rumor that Condoleezza Rice may be John McCains running mate.
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I should mention, last night watching Real Time with Bill Maher there was a rumor that Condoleezza Rice may be John McCains running mate.
QUOTE (ROSEDOGGYDOG @ Feb 9 2008, 09:13 AM)
I should mention, last night watching Real Time with Bill Maher there was a rumor that Condoleezza Rice may be John McCains running mate.
Noooooooooooo!
Well, we know who Bizz is going to vote for...
This turns DN's head as well...
After yesterday it looks like the Huckster is challenging Washington State because they quit counting at 87% of Precints reporting with about 1,500+/- left.
McCain led 26% (3,468) to Huckabee's 24% (3,226)
I think Mike is cleary in the right for wanting this as the lead change was multiple times yesterday.
McCain led 26% (3,468) to Huckabee's 24% (3,226)
I think Mike is cleary in the right for wanting this as the lead change was multiple times yesterday.
QUOTE (ROSEDOGGYDOG @ Feb 10 2008, 10:46 PM)
After yesterday it looks like the Huckster is challenging Washington State because they quit counting at 87% of Precints reporting with about 1,500+/- left.
McCain led 26% (3,468) to Huckabee's 24% (3,226)
I think Mike is cleary in the right for wanting this as the lead change was multiple times yesterday.
McCain led 26% (3,468) to Huckabee's 24% (3,226)
I think Mike is cleary in the right for wanting this as the lead change was multiple times yesterday.
But isn't it statistically impossible for Huckabee to pull ahead of McCain in delegates at this point? Why worry about delaying the inevitable?
Is it impossible? I haven't counted.
MSNBC says that it is mathematically impossible for Huckabee to win at this point. He has 234 delegates to McCain's 724, and they need 1191 to win the nomination. I'm not sure if I would say "mathematically impossible", just that it's highly unlikely that McCain would lose every single state from now on. Winner-take-all primaries make it really easy for McCain to clinch the nomination really soon. But certainly there is a huge amount of discontent with McCain. And it is not surprising to see Huckabee doing well as the "not McCain" candidate. (This is the part where I could go on for a very long time about the role of religion in politics, but I'll leave it.)
oh and FYI, Obama swept all four states this weekend, as well as the Virgin Islands. He's also probably going to do the same in the DC/Maryland/Virginia primaries coming up tomorrow. Clinton's campaign is looking to Wisconsin and Texas / Ohio on March 4th to slow his momentum. Which is likely to happen; she will probably do well in those states. But of course, who knows.
oh and FYI, Obama swept all four states this weekend, as well as the Virgin Islands. He's also probably going to do the same in the DC/Maryland/Virginia primaries coming up tomorrow. Clinton's campaign is looking to Wisconsin and Texas / Ohio on March 4th to slow his momentum. Which is likely to happen; she will probably do well in those states. But of course, who knows.
Am I the only one that thinks that Edwards is using this upcoming endorsement as an ego trip and nothing more?
QUOTE (Moose And Squirrel @ Feb 11 2008, 09:07 AM)
Am I the only one that thinks that Edwards is using this upcoming endorsement as an ego trip and nothing more?
No.
If he wanted to help, he could have endorsed a candidate the week before Super Tuesday.
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Feb 10 2008, 11:40 PM)
Is it impossible? I haven't counted.
It's not technically impossible, just highly improbable. And Huckabee is absolutely 100% right to challenge the count in Washington state. You don't just stop counting when the results start going your way and throw out the remaining votes, unless you're Florida.
"Unless you're Florida"
2000 ANGST YEEEAHHHH
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:30 PM)
2000 ANGST YEEEAHHHH
RAWRRRRRR IN SOVIET FLORIDA THE VOTES COUNT YOU!
QUOTE (Satan's Camaro @ Feb 11 2008, 12:44 PM)
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:30 PM)
2000 ANGST YEEEAHHHH
RAWRRRRRR IN SOVIET FLORIDA THE VOTES COUNT YOU!
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, CHADS HANG YOU!
I think we should follow the Democratic lead for the general election and let Florida vote, but don't actually count their ballots. [/midwest angst]
Oh, come on. It's not like Florida and Michigan are crucial swing states.
:suicide
:suicide
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:50 PM)
QUOTE (Satan's Camaro @ Feb 11 2008, 12:44 PM)
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:30 PM)
2000 ANGST YEEEAHHHH
RAWRRRRRR IN SOVIET FLORIDA THE VOTES COUNT YOU!
IN SOVIET RUSSIA, CHADS HANG YOU!
the inevitable parody...
Hilarity
Interesting... Gary Bauer just endorsed John McCain
didn't see that coming
didn't see that coming
Is that Jack Bauer's dad?
LOL, what a Starscream
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...ions-for-obama/
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...ions-for-obama/
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Clinton: Still no congratulations for Obama
Posted: 09:55 PM ET
EL PASO, Texas (CNN) – For the second election night in a row, Hillary Clinton failed to acknowledge or congratulate Barack Obama after he won the day in dominating fashion.
On Tuesday in El Paso, hours after Virginia had been called for Obama, she stuck to her “Texas campaign kickoff” message and did not stray from an energetic, Lone Star-themed stump speech. She did mention Obama by name, only to chide his health care plan.
On Saturday night in Richmond, Virginia, Clinton spoke to a crowd of thousands at the state’s annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner, but she ignored Obama’s quartet of blowout primary and caucus wins that day as well (Obama also won the Maine caucuses the next day).
The courtesy of conceding a primary or caucus loss — and then congratulating your opponent — is by no means required. But it has become standard practice during campaign season.
Clinton congratulated Obama and John Edwards after their first and second place finishes in the Iowa caucuses. Obama returned the favor in New Hampshire, saying Clinton “did an outstanding job.” That courtesy continued through the early states.
But as the race has shifted to a delegate chase with dozens of states in play around the country, the notion of congratulating one’s opponent seems, for Clinton, to have fallen by the wayside.
Posted: 09:55 PM ET
EL PASO, Texas (CNN) – For the second election night in a row, Hillary Clinton failed to acknowledge or congratulate Barack Obama after he won the day in dominating fashion.
On Tuesday in El Paso, hours after Virginia had been called for Obama, she stuck to her “Texas campaign kickoff” message and did not stray from an energetic, Lone Star-themed stump speech. She did mention Obama by name, only to chide his health care plan.
On Saturday night in Richmond, Virginia, Clinton spoke to a crowd of thousands at the state’s annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner, but she ignored Obama’s quartet of blowout primary and caucus wins that day as well (Obama also won the Maine caucuses the next day).
The courtesy of conceding a primary or caucus loss — and then congratulating your opponent — is by no means required. But it has become standard practice during campaign season.
Clinton congratulated Obama and John Edwards after their first and second place finishes in the Iowa caucuses. Obama returned the favor in New Hampshire, saying Clinton “did an outstanding job.” That courtesy continued through the early states.
But as the race has shifted to a delegate chase with dozens of states in play around the country, the notion of congratulating one’s opponent seems, for Clinton, to have fallen by the wayside.
Obama 4 da lead!!!!!!! 
Their debate in Texas is going to be at UT! I want to know how I can get hooked up with that.
OMG, these critics'd rake her over the coals over the smallest thing if she forgot to turn off the lights after leaving a room. She's not the most polarizing figure in the political landscape today. Her critics are.
QUOTE (Glue @ Feb 12 2008, 10:56 PM)
OMG, these critics'd rake her over the coals over the smallest thing if she forgot to turn off the lights after leaving a room. She's not the most polarizing figure in the political landscape today. Her critics are.
The press too.
I'm really getting tired of their hyping up candidates, with all their talk of "Oh, blah blah bla won't do well in this state or that state blah blah"
Translation: "People watching, save yourself the trouble of actually thinking about your choice and just vote for the guy/gal we think will do well."
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Feb 12 2008, 09:42 PM)
Their debate in Texas is going to be at UT! I want to know how I can get hooked up with that.
Make sure to show Hillary your 'O' face.
It occurs to me that Clinton is basically adopting Guliani's old strategy... lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, THEN hope to win a big state at the end. Oh well, it worked for him didn't it?
Well, that is what happens when you've been around for as long as she has. There are a lot of people who really don't like the Clintons. Like, Washington people.
Man, the way she's setting this up, she'll have to crush Obama in Texas and Ohio and not just pull out a victory.
Chances: unlikely. [/omega supreme]
Chances: unlikely. [/omega supreme]
QUOTE (Moose And Squirrel @ Feb 13 2008, 08:57 AM)
Man, the way she's setting this up, she'll have to crush Obama in Texas and Ohio and not just pull out a victory.
Chances: unlikely. [/omega supreme]
Chances: unlikely. [/omega supreme]
MSNBC was getting out the calculators on this... basically stating your point. The thing about the Texas/Ohio "firewall" for Clinton is that she's banking on Latinos (Texas) and low-income white voters (Ohio), who are increasingly breaking for Obama. He won *every* demographic (except for white women, although he is gaining in that one) in the MD/VA/DC primaries last night. And there is a significant Latino population in the DC area.
I'm still very nervous as an Obama supporter b/c it is Hillary Clinton, after all... but things are looking encouraging. Obama's campaign manager has gone so far as to say that it's "next to impossible" for Clinton to catch Obama at this point. Which makes me anxious a little; I don't like to declare victory prematurely. But certainly things are going in his direction right now.
Wisconsin will be a good indicator of how his message sells w/ blue-collar workers. I'm also looking forward to Obama getting progressively more specific about his plans/views. I think he played it right; get the people behind you using a broad message and gradually add specifics as you get closer to the nomination.
Obama's lead over Clinton hasn't been anywhere as long or by as much as her lead was over him. It's hardly in the bag.
The difference is that she started out as the presumptive nominee and he didn't. There's been a dramatic role reversal that's been gradually happening for months now. And mathematically, Clinton is running out of time. She needs to start winning by big margins, now.
She did? Coulda fooled me with all the Hillary hatred..
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