Oh, it's totally serrus, but once a page reaches over about 100 pages or so, I figure all the important stuff on that particular topic has been said, and I stop being as uptight about it.

*relief* I was worrying you guys would get interweb pissed.

What i don't get is - Hasn't Hillary won all of the states that have voted recently?

I remember folks saying - Well hillary is going to have to Win EVERY state from here on out... and it seems like she has...

Obama clinches the nomination, like so much Clinton supporter anuses.

I read something that really clarified all that for me -- they said that we might mistakenly think that we're watching a campaign narrative unfold, when what we're really watching is the primary schedule play out. Both Clinton's and Obama's constituencies have stayed remarkably consistent throughout the process. It just so happens that a bunch of Appalachian states voted near the end, and that's an area that Clinton polls very well in. The same is true for Obama in the midwest, etc.

The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments.

AP: Clinton is 'open to being Obama's vice presidential candidate'

News alert from the Associated Press: "Clinton tells New York lawmakers she's open to being Obama's vice presidential candidate."

Nothing at this moment from AP on its sourcing for this.

Update at 3:37 p.m. ET. More on the story. The AP now adds that:

Clinton, a New York senator, made the comment on a conference call with other New York lawmakers Tuesday, according a participant on the call.

The senator's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez who said she believed the best way for Obama to win over key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November.

Update at 3:40 p.m. ET: CNN says it has been told by Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., that "he has the understanding that Hillary Clinton would be open to that vice presidential slot."

Update at 3:26 p.m. ET. USA TODAY's Fredreka Schouten writes that:

Several of Clinton's supporters have called for a joint ticket. "There's a growing movement that's becoming almost bigger than Hillary Clinton to make sure they are on the ticket together," said Mark Aronchick, a Philadelphia lawyer and top Clinton fundraiser.

Several of Clinton's supporters have called for a joint ticket. "There's a growing movement that's becoming almost bigger than Hillary Clinton to make sure they are on the ticket together," said Mark Aronchick, a Philadelphia lawyer and top Clinton fundraiser.

What Obama supporters need to get over is that she's still represents a large portion of voters and that Obama's likely victory over her will be far from a landslide considering how close she already is regardless of what the final tally will be. On the other hand, might be best for everyone to just worry about the present first before the future.

The real question for Obama's campaign is, does Hillary represent any constituency that Obama needs in the general election -- and which he can't get himself by virtue of being the Democratic nominee or by selecting another running mate, perhaps one who hasn't spent the last several months waging a hard fought battle against him? I don't think anybody expects Obama not to win New York and California (for example), since they vote Democratic no matter what. As for Hillary's Appalachian support, the Democrats always lose that demographic to the Republicans anyway. So there is a real question of what practical benefit she would provide. Not to mention the fact that Obama has built his appeal upon changing Washington politics, and for him to pick Clinton as his running mate would seriously endanger that appeal.

I don't think so. After the populous states, the key states in the general election are the South. As far's I've seen, she will still possibly help take some states in the South as opposed to none.

I don't think so. After the populous states, the key states in the general election are the South. As far's I've seen, she will still possibly help take some states in the South as opposed to none.

*shrug* There seem to be a lot more crazed Clinton supporters who despise Obama enough to switch to voting for McCain than I'd originally thought.

The McGovern Commission changes to the convention rules marginalized the influence of establishment Democratic figures (some of whom had lost the nomination to McGovern). Many refused to support him, with some switching their support to the incumbent President Richard Nixon through a campaign effort called "Democrats for Nixon".

Is anyone afraid that an Obama presidency will be like: Carter Redux'D
opening up for a Republican sweep come 2012?

The truth is that VPs hardly ever make a difference. LBJ was the last one to have any tangible effect on the election.

Is anyone afraid that an Obama presidency will be like: Carter Redux'D
opening up for a Republican sweep come 2012?

Obama's nads > Carter's nads

but that's just my sense

Not that I want to look at eithers "nads"

At least Carter tried to do something in Iran, even though it blew up in our face.

Obama, lets talk milk and cookies.

i personally think it might hurt him to add her, but thats just me.

There are currently a total of 823.5 unpledged delegates (known as superdelegates) who are free to vote for any candidate at the convention. Superdelegate votes are given equal weight to the votes of pledged delegates. Superdelegates are members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate, state and territorial governors, members of the Democratic National Committee, distinguished party leaders, and add-on delegates selected by the state parties. They represent almost 20 percent of the total 4,233 delegates.

The number and composition of superdelegates can change right up to the start of the Democratic National Convention. The total number of superdelegate votes at the start of the primary season in October 2007 stood at 850. Various events such as deaths, elections, and disqualifications have brought the total to its current state. Further change is possible, given that in Maryland's 4th congressional district special election, 2008, on June 17, the Democrat is heavily favored to win a currently open seat.[8]

While officially uncommitted until the convention, the superdelegates may publicly endorse or commit to a candidate at any time. The presidential candidates compete heavily for these commitments. News organizations survey the superdelegates periodically throughout the election season and try to calculate how many have committed to each of the candidates. The media often include these superdelegate estimates in their reporting on the race, leading to differing delegate counts from various news sources.

*is firmly lodged in Olbermann's rectal cavity*

Texas Pete June 3rd, 2008 10:49 pm ET

I'll never vote for Obama. He went to a racist church for 20 years, he keeps poor company, and like a good policitian, he hides his character. What a faker.

I just saw this on the CNN Ticker talkbacks:



Has Pete been playing both sides?