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Father Time
QUOTE (HolyLancer @ Jan 21 2008, 04:35 AM) *
Is that it? I thought there were 7 or 8 episodes out.

There was the movie, which I enjoyed. I didn't see the episode after that until later (didn't care for it. The one with the Archer bad guy) then they skipped an episode and went straight to the Dinobot episode (liked it. Didn't care for the one they skipped) and then...was there another episode between that one and the one with Lockdown? Maybe not.

Don't get me wrong, I guess for the majority I'm liking it. Maybe there aren't as many episodes as I thought there were, yet...

1-3: Transform and Roll Out! Pilot Movie
4: Home is where the Spark is
5: Meltdown
6: Blast from the Past
7: Thrill of the Hunt

So, there is "Meltdown" you did not like, and "Home is where the Spark is".

BTW: People may be whining about Sari's key, but take notice of the fact that she actually uses it during battles and what not, instead of holding it in her pocket and letting the Autobots get trashed, just for dramatic effect. Well, except for the "Thrill of the Hunt" episode, which took place at night, and arguably, Sari as a little girl should be asleep at such times.
Aquarion
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 21 2008, 07:03 AM) *
BTW: People may be whining about Sari's key,

I don't see why they should. It's pretty much her "super power" so of course she's going to use the key a lot. It's like whining about Prime using his rocket ax or about Ratchet using his electro-magnets.
Lord Madhammer
BTW just an addendum to my earlier post about the latest episode: the flashback scenes w/ Ratchet and Arcee mark the only time I've ever believed that the Transformers were really involved in a war.
Jett not Munky!
it was nice to see Blitzwing again. he cracks me up so much. great character.

Lockdown quickly grew on me too. i was initially indifferent about him but he won me over in the end.

Powerglide! i gotta wait a whole week again!
Hunter Rose
I was surprised that Lockdown's voice was so smooth. Not at all what my imagination told me to expect when i put the image of his spiny car together with Lance's Face/voice
Whisky Tango Foxtrot
QUOTE (Trainwreck @ Jan 21 2008, 02:20 AM) *
QUOTE (Whisky Tango Foxtrot @ Jan 20 2008, 10:42 AM) *
I've just got to say that we really need a Cybertron Ratchet toy.


Why?

Because he's cool and has a neat looking altmode. He's also the only bot with an on-screen Cybertronian altmode that hasn't gotten a toy made of it.
dannydarkman
Blitzwing is great XD
Czarcher
I gotta say that Arcees' character design is one of the best so far. And Susan Blu revising her role just adds more to her coolness factor.
Lockdown is a cool character,and Lance Hendricksen voicing him was perfect! He's kinda like the Boba Fett of Transformers. Each is a bounty hunter,and collects trophies from their 'hunts'.
DarkNarcoleptic
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 21 2008, 01:41 PM) *
BTW just an addendum to my earlier post about the latest episode: the flashback scenes w/ Ratchet and Arcee mark the only time I've ever believed that the Transformers were really involved in a war.

What, tooling around on a planet saying "hey those guys are i guess shooting at us btw lol" without repercussions wasn't believable?
Trainwreck
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 21 2008, 11:41 AM) *
BTW just an addendum to my earlier post about the latest episode: the flashback scenes w/ Ratchet and Arcee mark the only time I've ever believed that the Transformers were really involved in a war.


Best post ever +1
Agent TMan
Total Meltdown





Father Time
Seriously, I don't get it: How come for some people, Youtube is morally allowed, while Torrents aren't? Both are illegal. Both are copies of the original, freely distributed without content of the original owner. So, is the difference completely arbitrary, or what?
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 22 2008, 08:53 AM) *
Seriously, I don't get it: How come for some people, Youtube is morally allowed, while Torrents aren't? Both are illegal. Both are copies of the original, freely distributed without content of the original owner. So, is the difference completely arbitrary, or what?

Not to derail this thread...

but the difference is that it's streaming video, so it feels like watching TV

(even though there are broadcast licensing fees w/ television that most people don't know about)

On-topic: Lockdown has a rubsign, lol

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=view&a...0&start=120
Agent TMan
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 22 2008, 09:58 AM) *
On-topic: Lockdown has a rubsign, lol

http://TFormers.com/ig.php?mode=view&a...0&start=120

You gettin' slow, P. I noticed this on his promo pics. I thought he was gonna rub it at some point during the show.

Let me add this since I'm late on coming here since Sat., Thrill of the Hunt is my favorite episode so far. Man, Prime's skills were excellent. Prowl was cool as norm. Bulkhead running through that wall all willy nilly was so funny. This was the perfect not to kiddie ep.
Father Time
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 22 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 22 2008, 08:53 AM) *
Seriously, I don't get it: How come for some people, Youtube is morally allowed, while Torrents aren't? Both are illegal. Both are copies of the original, freely distributed without content of the original owner. So, is the difference completely arbitrary, or what?

Not to derail this thread...

but the difference is that it's streaming video, so it feels like watching TV

(even though there are broadcast licensing fees w/ television that most people don't know about)

Wouldn't you then not say that posting torrents is virtually the same, legally, and thus is also allowed?
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 22 2008, 10:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 22 2008, 09:58 AM) *
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 22 2008, 08:53 AM) *
Seriously, I don't get it: How come for some people, Youtube is morally allowed, while Torrents aren't? Both are illegal. Both are copies of the original, freely distributed without content of the original owner. So, is the difference completely arbitrary, or what?

Not to derail this thread...

but the difference is that it's streaming video, so it feels like watching TV

(even though there are broadcast licensing fees w/ television that most people don't know about)

Wouldn't you then not say that posting torrents is virtually the same, legally, and thus is also allowed?

Stay on topic please.
Ryu Hayabusa
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif
Agent Zero
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:59 PM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif

Well we here in Canuckland are a little behind the curve as far as episode airings go. So catching the latest episode on YouTube keeps me in the loop tounge1.gif
Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:59 AM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif

Admit it, this whole post was just an excuse to talk about the size of your television.
Lord Madhammer
gotta love NTSC on a huge TV
Agent TMan
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:59 PM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif

I dont have Comcast ondemand so when I saw ep 5 on this dudes Youtube page, I was so happy. Why wait when you can see what ever, when ever? All TV should be like this.
Ryu Hayabusa
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jan 22 2008, 12:08 PM) *
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:59 AM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif
Admit it, this whole post was just an excuse to talk about the size of your television.
optimuslaugh2.gif no i did that when i first got it bumblebeetounge.gif
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jan 22 2008, 03:05 PM) *
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:59 PM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif
I dont have Comcast ondemand so when I saw ep 5 on this dudes Youtube page, I was so happy. Why wait when you can see what ever, when ever? All TV should be like this.
then there'd be nothing to watch!!
DarkNarcoleptic
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 11:59 AM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif

Well Total Meltdown was not shown, and at the time it was put up CN hadn't announced plans to air the episode. So that's why I saw that one.
The Diesel
QUOTE (Hunter Rose @ Jan 21 2008, 04:04 PM) *
I was surprised that Lockdown's voice was so smooth. Not at all what my imagination told me to expect when i put the image of his spiny car together with Lance's Face/voice

The guy is all kinds of cool. He pulled off Lockdown's voice so smooth.
Darth Caine
This topic should get sticked onto the top of this board.
DarkNarcoleptic
Stickied? We don't use them fancy vBulletin words around here, son. "Pinned" will do just fine.
Darth Caine
Whatever floats your boat, granddad. biggrintf.gif
Lord Madhammer
Or this thread could be "closed" since we have a whole forum for it now. smiletf.gif
DarkNarcoleptic
>_> But

Or you could go through it and split all the different discussions into separate threads. But I guess that would be work.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jan 24 2008, 12:50 PM) *
>_> But

Or you could go through it and split all the different discussions into separate threads. But I guess that would be work.

Why don't you go through all the posts and earmark which ones should go where, and I'll split it accordingly.
DarkNarcoleptic
Sure, modinate me really quick.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (( . Y . ) @ Jan 24 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Sure, modinate me really quick.

Done.
DarkNarcoleptic
optimuslaugh2.gif

Okay, I'm done
JustLOKIPLVY
"and this is why I hate machines."

laughlol.gif Great running gag/line. Pridictable but loveable.

Just got caught up Youtube. The show is awesome. Hasbro/CN nailed everything from the get go and I couldn't be happier.

I'm really impressed by the group dynamic playing out on the autobot’s side. This IMO is what made TTs so much fun where as LOSH came off as meh. CN tried to recreate some persuado TT/JL series and ultimately failed miserably with it. Transformers however gets it right from the start. The characterization is the best I've seen in a TF series since 90s Beat Wars. I see a definite potential for this to go somewhere.

Episodes thus far have been pretty decent, and carry the same tone/feel of most TT episodes. Animation is definitely more stylish/emphasised than Teen Titans but on a whole really not that hard to enjoy. The creators have obviously found a balance between other CN shows like TT and Fosters (saw maybe one) and for the most part it translates well without looking cheap or lazy. Transformations are also a lot of fun, and though not of the complicated parts shifting variety really don't detract in anyway from the show itself. Neither do the human characters. Sari as is most of the human cast generally likable and not overly obnoxious. Nice to see a human character that for once isn't dumbed down for the younger preschool audiences. That Black character though was probably the worst acted character since Wheel jack in Armada. Laughably bad.

On the topic of voice actors, my God what a fantastic cast. I will admit hearing David Kay voice Prime in the first three episode opener was a bit strange. Reminded me entirely of how I felt after hearing Chalk do Primal in Beast Wars, it just didn't fit. By the end of the premier though I was pretty comfortable with the decision, the voice as does the character doesn't take a lot of time to fall in love with. Also it works because this isn't the kickass leader from G1/the movie, this is Prime the anti hero and it's a welcome change. Corry Burton as Megatron is also an interesting choice outside of Welker/Kaye but the voice works wonderfully with the design. The rest of the vocal talent is wonderful, and really brings out the characterizations in a way that hasn't been seen/heard since again Beastwars. Very happy with Starscream, for once he's actually a threat and convincingly so. What an introduction, first thing he does is nearly succeed in killing Megatron and in such an underhanded way that is pure Decepticon Starscream. Haven't seen enough of the other Decepticons to know what I think of them. Blitzwing's three personality take is an interesting idea, it'll be interesting to see if it builds up to anything more than comic relief. Oh and Lance Henrickson as bounty hunter Lockdown is definitely TFA's Slade character. Question did anybody else here get a lobo vibe from the guy?

I'm glad I'm not the only mid twenty year old guy enjoying this series so far because I hate standing in corner by myself when a fandom should be about the love, and not the hate. smiletf.gif
RodimusZero
DESTRONIUM.

Made my day. optimuslaugh2.gif
Blitz-Wing
QUOTE (primusq001 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:59 AM) *
i have a question.....why does everyone try to rush and watch the eps on the internet before they hit the T.V, are ppl that inpatient to wait a week for the new eps to come out. i mean personaly dont see the intrige in sqweenting in front of my computer to watch something cool,when i can seat in front of my 65' and enjoy it alot more without worring about load time, pop ups ect. then theres the fact that after you've seen them all, you have to wait longer for the new eps to come out. cliffjumper.gif


Because some of us don't have cable or satellite access?

Anyways, Nanosec was a decent episode. Is it me, or does Prime get more pissy in this series? First time I really remember him getting in one of his bot's face in a long time.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot
Does "destronium" have any significance in the Transformers mythos other than having the Japanese word for the Decepticons as its root?
Father Time
I hated this episode. Nanosec turns older when he uses the suit, and instead of trying to prevent it, they make him use it even more, until he burns out. How is that good? And while Prime keeps on telling Bumblebee to behave, suddenly, at the end of the episode, all is well, and he no longer minds? Not to mention Prowl wanting to race Bumblebee? How out of character is that? This was a typical Aesop episode, and I did not care for it at all.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (RodimusZero @ Jan 26 2008, 11:54 AM) *
DESTRONIUM.

Made my day. optimuslaugh2.gif

Yeah, that was good.

P.S. Father Time, I'd have to disagree with a few of your points (okay, maybe all of them):

1) Who's the "they" who are forcing Nanosec to keep using the suit? It seemed to me that he was only driven by his own desire for $$$. He didn't have to keep zooming around.

2) I don't think Prime would really want to get all up in Bumblebee's sh*t after he nearly killed himself trying to save everyone. Prime's fear was that Bumblebee would only use those jet thingies to screw around, but I think that fear was allayed by Bumblebee's actions at the end. Like, you know, the whole great power/great responsibility thing.

3) Prowl was racing?
Father Time
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 26 2008, 01:43 PM) *
1) Who's the "they" who are forcing Nanosec to keep using the suit? It seemed to me that he was only driven by his own desire for $$$. He didn't have to keep zooming around.

The "they" are the Autobots, in specific Bumblebee. Bumblebee races off with the cartridge with Destronium, luring Nanosec with him, with the intent to drain his energy. Except, that energy is his 'lifeforce'. And, no indication is given that Nanosec even knows what the suit is doing to him. The only time Nanosec is commented upon relating to his condition while he is actually present is when Bulkhead asks "Didn't you used to be a redhead?", from which one cannot seriously deduce that he is growing older.

QUOTE
2) I don't think Prime would really want to get all up in Bumblebee's sh*t after he nearly killed himself trying to save everyone. Prime's fear was that Bumblebee would only use those jet thingies to screw around, but I think that fear was allayed by Bumblebee's actions at the end. Like, you know, the whole great power/great responsibility thing.

I would perhaps agree with you on the fact that just after Bumblebee risked his life to safe everyone, he didn't want to say anything. But, he did just break rank, without telling what he was planning. No mention of that was given, while it is pretty obvious that Prime does not appreciate that kind of thing happening.

QUOTE
3) Prowl was racing?

Last words Prowl says in the show are directed to Bumblebee: "Race you back to the plant?"

And, most of all, I hate Aesops.
Lord Madhammer
So you're saying that nobody realized the effect the suit was having on Nanosec, and the Autobots are still culpable? Like you said, they don't even understand age, being robots and all.
Father Time
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 26 2008, 02:11 PM) *
So you're saying that nobody realized the effect the suit was having on Nanosec, and the Autobots are still culpable? Like you said, they don't even understand age, being robots and all.

.....Did you see the episode? "White hair in humans is usually a function of age", as quoted from Prowl. Which led Bumblebee to his coldhearted act of driving Nanosec to retirement. Not to mention the countless times that the Autobots commented on Ratchet, and him being halfway into the Matrix already.

So, yes, The Autobots knew about what 'age" means, even in a human context. And at least Bumblebee also knew that the suit was affecting Nanosec, and aged him rapidly. Knowing that, he still lured him with the intent to burn him out. That is cold. And unless you're what they call an 'anti-hero', not right either.
Blitz-Wing
(watches discussion between Father Time and Pete, grabs more popcorn)

smile2.gif
Bestimus Mucho
Things I found amusing.

1) Destronium

2) Red and grey bumblebees
Satan's Camaro
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 26 2008, 02:22 PM) *
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 26 2008, 02:11 PM) *
So you're saying that nobody realized the effect the suit was having on Nanosec, and the Autobots are still culpable? Like you said, they don't even understand age, being robots and all.

.....Did you see the episode? "White hair in humans is usually a function of age", as quoted from Prowl. Which led Bumblebee to his coldhearted act of driving Nanosec to retirement. Not to mention the countless times that the Autobots commented on Ratchet, and him being halfway into the Matrix already.

So, yes, The Autobots knew about what 'age" means, even in a human context. And at least Bumblebee also knew that the suit was affecting Nanosec, and aged him rapidly. Knowing that, he still lured him with the intent to burn him out. That is cold. And unless you're what they call an 'anti-hero', not right either.


You make it sound like they did something harmful to an innocent person. Let's try to keep in mind that Nanosec was the bad guy - he got what he deserved.

Good episode BTW

Also, who's to say that Prime didn't reprimand Bumblebee after they returned to the warehouse?

And I think Prowl was joking sarcastically w/Bumblebee at the end. I think he knew that Bumblebee was not in any shape to race, and that he would obviously decline.
Beast Megatron
The guy was a crook. The Autobots didn't race him around to kill him, they weakened him so he couldn't blow up all of Detroit. One evil thief pales in comparison to everyone in the city- remember, the Destronium was volatile.
Mom
Nano Sexton chose his own path. No one forced him to continue racing to his retirement. Let's not forget he's a criminal and it was obvious he was going to let nothing stop him if he could help it. The bad guy got what he deserved and the Autobots took advantage of his weekness, greed.

RE: BB falling out of rank... not so much:
Prime: "What are you doing?"
Bumblebee: "Using my head and my thrusters."

Bumblebee did just what Prime told him too which is what saved the day. And besides, the Autobots aren't soldiers. Rank seems to be a loose term with them as compared to any other series or normal army rules/regulations.
Father Time
QUOTE (Satan's Camaro @ Jan 26 2008, 03:44 PM) *
You make it sound like they did something harmful to an innocent person. Let's try to keep in mind that Nanosec was the bad guy - he got what he deserved.

Eye for an eye? Someone does something bad, and you can do whatever you want? "Once you go bad, there's no turning back"? That hardly seems like the Autobot motto to me. Nor does it fit with the kind of cartoon Animated is. It feels like a sloppy way of trying to quickly tie up the plot, without consideration to the characters involved. I think it is just bad writing.

QUOTE (Satan's Camaro @ Jan 26 2008, 03:44 PM) *
Also, who's to say that Prime didn't reprimand Bumblebee after they returned to the warehouse?

In my opinion, that doesn't really matter. I'm talking about the kind of storytelling, the kind of writing that we see. We can tie up any number of plotholes 'off screen', but the fact remains that they exist in the first place.

QUOTE (Satan's Camaro @ Jan 26 2008, 03:44 PM) *
And I think Prowl was joking sarcastically w/Bumblebee at the end. I think he knew that Bumblebee was not in any shape to race, and that he would obviously decline.

Listening to that segment, it seems to me the voice-actor of Prowl had no intent to make Prowl evoke sarcasm when saying that. In other words, the way Prowl was directed, there was no sarcasm involved in that scene. Either that, or the VA of Prowl is lousy, and I think Jeff Bennett is doing a pretty good job with him, so I don't think that's the case.
JustLOKIPLVY
Just saw the ep. All hail UTube. clap.gif

Fun episode. Human villains/Decepticons it all works within the style of the show.

Nanosec definitely got what he deserved. The prick was all about money anyway. I didn't find the ending so much lazy as it was sort of mean spirited. The guy was a pain in the ass from the get go and once the aging was realized, almost felt like Bumblebee burning him out was some sort of retribution for all the trouble caused. I also was kind wowed by the "Until he ran out of time line." Obviously it didn't kill but this line kind of sugested Bumblebee wouldn't have really cared either way. I percieved it as disturbingly empathetic but it probably was just meant as a joke.

Prowl racing Bumblebee at the end was really a no brainer and hardly out of character. I think this was Prowls way of saying "good job" and that, yeah speed oposed to thought and skill can count for something in the right time/situation, without actually having to admit it outright.

My only complaint was some of the animation. Prime's chest windows got awfully small in the beginning compared to how they normally look.

Can't wait to see these in decent dvd quality and 5.1 when they're released.
Ryu Hayabusa
this was a great eps. i only wish bumblebee kept the turbo boosters. and prime is growing in his leadership role sweet!!
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