Whisky Tango Foxtrot
Jan 6 2008, 02:42 PM
What's that first picture from? Is there a new Transformers videogame in the works?
dcj91x
Jan 6 2008, 08:07 PM
I've seen all those pictures before but I'm just hoping that when it comes down to it there's something better. That just seems like too much of a let down to me. it's just not scary..
dcj91x
Jan 6 2008, 08:16 PM
DarkNarcoleptic
Jan 6 2008, 08:23 PM
Wow. He puts Classics Megatron to shame.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Jan 6 2008, 08:28 PM
QUOTE (dcj91x @ Jan 6 2008, 08:07 PM)

I've seen all those pictures before but I'm just hoping that when it comes down to it there's something better. That just seems like too much of a let down to me. it's just not scary..
We've seen the animation of that mode from Cartoon Network. It's a done deal.
And, if I may, with the cannon that copter's packing at the front, I'd be scared Blotless at the sight of it coming right for me. At least as scared as a tank would make me - plus it flies. Anyone who says that copter isn't scary isn't thinking rationally.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 6 2008, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Jan 6 2008, 10:28 PM)

QUOTE (dcj91x @ Jan 6 2008, 08:07 PM)

I've seen all those pictures before but I'm just hoping that when it comes down to it there's something better. That just seems like too much of a let down to me. it's just not scary..
We've seen the animation of that mode from Cartoon Network. It's a done deal.
And, if I may, with the cannon that copter's packing at the front, I'd be scared Blotless at the sight of it coming right for me. At least as scared as a tank would make me - plus it flies. Anyone who says that copter isn't scary isn't thinking rationally.
I didn't think Animated Starscream looked scary until I saw him in action in the series premiere...
Blitz-Wing
Jan 6 2008, 09:01 PM
QUOTE (dcj91x @ Jan 6 2008, 08:16 PM)

You do know that's his Cybertronian mode figure right?
QUOTE (dcj91x @ Jan 6 2008, 11:07 PM)

I've seen all those pictures before but I'm just hoping that when it comes down to it there's something better. That just seems like too much of a let down to me. it's just not scary..

And what exactly is scary or imposing about a
crayola colored triple changer?
An alt mode is an alt mode. It's a form of transportation and disguise not a personality extension.
Hunter Rose
Jan 6 2008, 09:18 PM
Just saw #4
Nice builder episode.
But it did kinda seem like it was laying the groundwork for something more interesting that it was in and of itself.
ROSEDOGGYDOG
Jan 6 2008, 11:00 PM
QUOTE (Hellscream333 @ Jan 6 2008, 12:31 PM)

You're assuming people can't read? *Looks at the thread topic again*
Buddykiller
Jan 7 2008, 03:32 AM
QUOTE (Athenor @ Jan 6 2008, 03:27 PM)

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jan 6 2008, 11:47 AM)

man, i had high hopes for this series after the pilot, i thought i'd actually be able to watch it. this latest ep just... well let me down. i couldn't even make it through the first 10 minutes before it felt like another crap action 'toon.
So what you are saying is that you stopped watching it during the introduction to Prowl, and quit before any of the actual events of the episode kicked in?
Don't tell me the sleepover turned you off...
...what sleepover?
i changed it while they where Starscreaming in the garage. just couldn't stomach it, too much like every other crappy action toon out there. overly campy dialouge, etc... i mean christ the transformers are acting like children O_O the transformers acting like super robot helper heroes just sucks.
meh, just not for me, hopefully the kids like it. i'll leave you guys alone now, fap away.
dcj91x
Jan 7 2008, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (Hellscream333 @ Jan 7 2008, 12:14 AM)

QUOTE (dcj91x @ Jan 6 2008, 11:07 PM)

I've seen all those pictures before but I'm just hoping that when it comes down to it there's something better. That just seems like too much of a let down to me. it's just not scary..

And what exactly is scary or imposing about a
crayola colored triple changer?
An alt mode is an alt mode. It's a form of transportation and disguise not a personality extension.
Now that is completely not true... The Transformers' Vehicle modes have always been an extension of their personalities. What they are as a vehicle represents their attitudes as a robot. Vehicle or robot they are one combined character not two separate ones.
Hunter Rose
Jan 7 2008, 09:13 AM
QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jan 7 2008, 03:32 AM)

QUOTE (Athenor @ Jan 6 2008, 03:27 PM)

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jan 6 2008, 11:47 AM)

man, i had high hopes for this series after the pilot, i thought i'd actually be able to watch it. this latest ep just... well let me down. i couldn't even make it through the first 10 minutes before it felt like another crap action 'toon.
So what you are saying is that you stopped watching it during the introduction to Prowl, and quit before any of the actual events of the episode kicked in?
Don't tell me the sleepover turned you off...
...what sleepover?
i changed it while they where Starscreaming in the garage. just couldn't stomach it, too much like every other crappy action toon out there. overly campy dialouge, etc... i mean christ the transformers are acting like children O_O the transformers acting like super robot helper heroes just sucks.
meh, just not for me, hopefully the kids like it. i'll leave you guys alone now, fap away.
Oh how i long for the days of truly mature Transformer stories....
why oh why did Sunbow abanadon us??
Father Time
Jan 7 2008, 09:25 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 4 2008, 10:36 PM)

QUOTE (FREEFALLL666 @ Jan 4 2008, 07:22 PM)

Charachotrisation
What he said.
Yeah, but what did he say?
Agent Zero
Jan 7 2008, 09:26 AM
The simple fact is that anything after Cybertron's race car of doom will be a welcomed change for Megs. The Osprey/Attack Chopper intrigues me. IMO it as the potential to really work as Megatron's alt mode (all though personally I always liked the idea of a tank for Megs).
His (toy's) Cybertronian alt mode sucks though. Movie Megatron's alt mode looked more "alien jet-like."
Lord Madhammer
Jan 7 2008, 09:27 AM
QUOTE (Hunter Rose @ Jan 7 2008, 11:13 AM)

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jan 7 2008, 03:32 AM)

QUOTE (Athenor @ Jan 6 2008, 03:27 PM)

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Jan 6 2008, 11:47 AM)

man, i had high hopes for this series after the pilot, i thought i'd actually be able to watch it. this latest ep just... well let me down. i couldn't even make it through the first 10 minutes before it felt like another crap action 'toon.
So what you are saying is that you stopped watching it during the introduction to Prowl, and quit before any of the actual events of the episode kicked in?
Don't tell me the sleepover turned you off...
...what sleepover?
i changed it while they where bitching in the garage. just couldn't stomach it, too much like every other crappy action toon out there. overly campy dialouge, etc... i mean christ the transformers are acting like children O_O the transformers acting like super robot helper heroes just sucks.
meh, just not for me, hopefully the kids like it. i'll leave you guys alone now, fap away.
Oh how i long for the days of truly mature Transformer stories....
why oh why did Sunbow abanadon us??
I know, right
I don't bother with a line-by-line analysis of the show because ultimately I know it isn't for me. But I can still appreciate it for what it is. The kids love it, and it's fun for me to watch a new Transformers cartoon for the sake of my inner
child or whatever. And I do also like that the show isn't taking the Transformers so deadly seriously all the time. It's more entertaining that way IMO. (which is why I liked RiD a lot more than A/E/C)
Agent Zero
Jan 7 2008, 09:32 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 7 2008, 12:27 PM)

And I do also like that the show isn't taking the Transformers so deadly seriously all the time. It's more entertaining that way IMO. (which is why I liked RiD a lot more than A/E/C)
The problem with A/E/C (ok, one of many problems) was that they tried to write the Transformers as serious characters, but still confine themselves to limits of a kids' cartoon. The result? The Transformers seemed like children trying to act all grown up, rather then being truly serious characters.
If they ever made a Transformers series along the same line as the comics, however, serious characters would work (it wouldn't be for little kids, however).
If anything Animated should be applauded for staying true to itself. It's a kids' cartoon, and it acts like a kids' cartoon. It isn't a kids' cartoon trying to act like it's something more (A/E/C).
Lord Madhammer
Jan 7 2008, 09:41 AM
I think A/E/C suffered from being poorly written and overly sincere, qualities which plague much Japanese TV animation IMO. Watching those shows reminded me of Power Rangers, with all their painful dialogue about "I will defeat you" and bla bla bla. The dialogue sounds like it was written by a five-year-old.
So yes, Animated is a refreshing change from all of that.
DarkNarcoleptic
Jan 7 2008, 12:01 PM
It's nice to see these characters translating so well into toy form. Prowl was cast from AWESOME. I can't find one thing to complain about the figure.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=162124
Beast Megatron
Jan 7 2008, 02:15 PM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 7 2008, 11:41 AM)

I think A/E/C suffered from being poorly written and overly sincere, qualities which plague much Japanese TV animation IMO. Watching those shows reminded me of Power Rangers, with all their painful dialogue about "I will defeat you" and bla bla bla. The dialogue sounds like it was written by a five-year-old.
So yes, Animated is a refreshing change from all of that.
Armada was just poor quality. Granted, the last half hour stands out as some of the best Transformers animation there is, but everything before that is pretty hard to watch. There was almost no animation other than sliding still frames, and more errors in the dialogue than ANY other Transformers show.
Energon didn't make any sense. It suffered from a horrible translation that rendered it impossible to follow. The plot of one episode would completely contradict the plot of another. After Unicron was destroyed, the series became almost incoherent. I still couldn't tell you what happened in the last few episodes, other than Galvatron was possessed by Unicron. The finale made little sense at all.
Cybertron was leaps and bounds better than Armada and Energon, but that doesn't make it great. It had some good fight scenes, and the dialogue greatly improved about 3/4 of the way through the series. Ultimately, it was hampered by a poor plot and bad translation choices (Cyber Key and Cyber Planet Key, for example).
Animated is a breath of fresh air, as it's not only superior to A/E/C, but it's good in its own right. It's really great to have a watchable Transformers series again.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot
Jan 7 2008, 03:23 PM
Regarding Earth-Megatron's altmode, does anyone else suspect that the V-22 form was chosen so that the designers could sneak in a second altmode in which the wings can be folded together into a handle?
SlickWave
Jan 7 2008, 04:04 PM
I like the New Transformers Animated Show I like the new look!

And I cant wait to see The Dinobots, Soundwave, and Arcee!
Lord Madhammer
Jan 7 2008, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Whisky Tango Foxtrot @ Jan 7 2008, 05:23 PM)

Regarding Earth-Megatron's altmode, does anyone else suspect that the V-22 form was chosen so that the designers could sneak in a second altmode in which the wings can be folded together into a handle?
yes
Bumblerod
Jan 8 2008, 01:11 PM
All I can compare to is the age old problem that has plauged 80's man since conception
''Good graphics do not make a good computer game, its the gameplay that counts''
I couldnt care less if the bots in this series looked like vegetables the story is kicking butt compared to anything since the Beast era, I love and I love the bot designs, I just dont get the hate for this thing
I was watching it on youtube and some people are killing it before they have even given it a chance
One reply was quite funny though, to quote
''what the f##k is this teen titans cosplay''
Aquarion
Jan 10 2008, 06:59 AM
I can't help but wonder how "official" is Megatron's status as leader of the Decepticons. He had a huge command ship but there was only 4 other cons on board with him and they seemed to be a pretty rag-tag group. It's like after the Great War, the Decepticons broke off into a bunch of scattered groups and the cons with Megatron were the only ones he could intimidate into remaining with him.
DarkNarcoleptic
Jan 10 2008, 08:29 AM
Which would be a pretty interesting angle...
Lord Madhammer
Jan 10 2008, 08:41 AM
*cough*Beast Wars*cough*
Aquarion
Jan 10 2008, 10:07 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 10 2008, 01:11 PM)

*cough*Beast Wars*cough*
To be fair, the above scenario is more along the lines of a tyrant who fell out of power, causing him to lose a lot of his followers, and is trying to rebuild his empire. Beast Megs is more like a terrorist who was never in an official leadership position, nor was he officially endorsed by his race's ruling government, and he wanted to grab supreme power for himself.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 10 2008, 10:14 AM
The end result would be the same. Obviously we don't know yet if there was some kind of leadership structure beyond Megatron in Animated, but given the way he is feared by the Autobots as a legendary villain, one could safely assume that he was the supreme
Aquarion
Jan 10 2008, 10:20 AM
Personally, I think Animated Megs would be more "desperate" since he would be trying to reclaim the power he once had, while BW Megs had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Just look at how savagely Animated Megs kept on fighting even after being wounded by Starscream's bomb. You could tell right there that he wanted the Allspark with every fiber of his being, even if it meant fighting to the death to get it.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 10 2008, 10:33 AM
Although if the Animated bios are to be believed, Animated Megs isn't all that different in motivation from BW Megs. They both consider themselves to be freedom fighters struggling against an oppressive regime. Although over the course of BW, Megatron did often revert to "mua ha ha" evil leader stereotypes. But it was a nice idea, though. It'll be interesting to see how they carry the idea through with Animated.
Father Time
Jan 10 2008, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 10 2008, 01:33 PM)

Although if the Animated bios are to be believed, Animated Megs isn't all that different in motivation from BW Megs. They both consider themselves to be freedom fighters struggling against an oppressive regime. Although over the course of BW, Megatron did often revert to "mua ha ha" evil leader stereotypes. But it was a nice idea, though. It'll be interesting to see how they carry the idea through with Animated.
Well, it WAS Mainframe.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 10 2008, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 10 2008, 12:39 PM)

QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 10 2008, 01:33 PM)

Although if the Animated bios are to be believed, Animated Megs isn't all that different in motivation from BW Megs. They both consider themselves to be freedom fighters struggling against an oppressive regime. Although over the course of BW, Megatron did often revert to "mua ha ha" evil leader stereotypes. But it was a nice idea, though. It'll be interesting to see how they carry the idea through with Animated.
Well, it WAS Mainframe.
...who animated the show? yes, but they didn't write it.
Agent Zero
Jan 10 2008, 11:01 AM
QUOTE (Aquarion @ Jan 10 2008, 09:59 AM)

I can't help but wonder how "official" is Megatron's status as leader of the Decepticons. He had a huge command ship but there was only 4 other cons on board with him and they seemed to be a pretty rag-tag group. It's like after the Great War, the Decepticons broke off into a bunch of scattered groups and the cons with Megatron were the only ones he could intimidate into remaining with him.
Bumblebee mentions that Megatron is the Decepticon leader, and after Starscream thinks he's blown him up he declares himself the new leader.
It would seem that after the Great War the Decepticons were banished from Cybertron, and that the group of 'Cons we saw on Megatron's ship was simply his "inner circle."
It wouldn't be surprised if other 'Cons still considered him their leader.
Agent TMan
Jan 10 2008, 11:17 AM
Armada was kiddie too but that show made me wanna never watch TF again. At the end of every ep I went, "WTF was I so excited to see this for?"
TF:A is very enjoyable.
Lord Madhammer
Jan 10 2008, 11:23 AM
QUOTE (Supa TMan @ Jan 10 2008, 01:17 PM)

Armada was kiddie too but that show made me wanna never watch TF again.
"Kiddie" means two different things: one, something so revoltingly awful that only a child with no discernment could think it was good; two, something that was intentionally designed for children. They are not the same thing.
Armada was "kiddie" in the first sense. It was fail in animated form. Animated is for children, but is of a much higher quality.
The bummer is that oftentimes, the people producing things for kids don't differentiate between the two meanings and think it's okay to produce lazy shit because kids won't care or know any better. Well, I can tell you that my kids' interest in A/E/C was passing at best. Now, all of them (including the oldest) can't wait for the next week's episode of Animated.
I.S.T.
Jan 10 2008, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 10 2008, 12:40 PM)

QUOTE (Father Time @ Jan 10 2008, 12:39 PM)

QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 10 2008, 01:33 PM)

Although if the Animated bios are to be believed, Animated Megs isn't all that different in motivation from BW Megs. They both consider themselves to be freedom fighters struggling against an oppressive regime. Although over the course of BW, Megatron did often revert to "mua ha ha" evil leader stereotypes. But it was a nice idea, though. It'll be interesting to see how they carry the idea through with Animated.
Well, it WAS Mainframe.
...who animated the show? yes, but they didn't write it.
A lot of the people who wrote Beast Wars also wrote on other Mainframe shows. >.>
Lord Madhammer
Jan 11 2008, 05:01 AM
and the story editor worked on He-Man in the 80's. Which as we all know was full of "hidden meaning".
I.S.T.
Jan 11 2008, 05:07 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 11 2008, 07:01 AM)

and the story editor worked on He-Man in the 80's. Which as we all know was full of "hidden meaning".

That was the point; That Mainframe's cartoons often went into "Mwahaha, I have you now, hero." stereotypes.
>.>
And besides, He-Man didn't even try to hide its' homosexual.
Broken Phantom
Jan 11 2008, 01:02 PM
Bearing in mind that i have only seen episodes 1,4 & that i am a G1 fan/old fart.
I loved it.
As many have said before the best writing scince B.W./B.M.
I found Sari quite annoying,but thats a huge progression from the horrific kids from A/E/C.
Blitz
Jan 11 2008, 01:25 PM
about Megatron's leadership if they were defeated it would not surprise me if the Decepticons fell into sub factions and sleeper cells with only the high command and most trusted staying near their leaders side... but i think were over thinking this any ways
I'd love to see such guys as shock wave pop up as leaders of the sleepercells re joining megatrons main force but that would just be fan wank to the X-Treem
Lord Madhammer
Jan 11 2008, 02:14 PM
I have a feeling that we're going to find out a lot more about the Transformers' history as the show goes on... primarily via Ratchet
Lord Madhammer
Jan 12 2008, 08:02 AM
OMFG DINOBOTS
"ME GRIMLOCK LEADER" just about made me squeal
KnightSoul
Jan 12 2008, 08:05 AM
GRIMLOCK: Car robots bad!
I don't know, I thought it was an okay series.
Very cool episode. I was beginning to wonder if we'd see a Dinobot transform this episode.
Now I really can't wait for the toys!
PlumperHumper
Jan 12 2008, 08:09 AM
QUOTE (Big Daddy @ Jan 12 2008, 08:02 AM)

OMFG DINOBOTS
"ME GRIMLOCK LEADER" just about made me squeal
I know dude!!
Grimlock's voice was great. I loved that they included Dinobot Island by the end. You just knew that was gonna happen and it was so awesome! It was a nice intro to them, I can't wait to see more from the Dinos and hear what Swoop and Slag's voices are. Oh and Megatron just keeps getting better.
Oh and...
TutorBot - "Jurassic Dinosaurs lived over 200 Million years ago."
Ratchet - "200 Million? PFFFT, We've been around for 10 Billion!"
Bestimus Mucho
Jan 12 2008, 08:38 AM
And finally a Dinobots Cartoon origin that might actually make a little sense! Oh that crafty Megatron.
Bestimus Mucho
Jan 12 2008, 09:50 AM
by the way, TV.com says that today's episode was suposed to be "Meltdown" not "Blast from the Past"
Satan's Camaro
Jan 12 2008, 09:58 AM
DESTROY THE FOSSIL FEEDERS!
omg that episode was fantastic.
I also liked how
they ended up being called Dinobots. Sure as hell beats "Dynabots"
Blitz
Jan 12 2008, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (Not Letting The Acronym Go @ Jan 12 2008, 05:50 PM)

by the way, TV.com says that today's episode was suposed to be "Meltdown" not "Blast from the Past"
in the episode summery it was pointed out that 5 would introduce the Dinobots
ps i cant wait to DL this episode
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