for all the talk I hear about the possibility of Dinobots in TF2 people are talking about how it should be just Grimlock, or ONLY 3 Dinobots including Grimlock and what their Alt. forms would be.....and less IMO about personality with Grimlock playing the part of Grimlock.


Point being is that who says whoever appears in TF2 as a Dino/Dynobot had to be based on the G1 guys??

they were sweet in the fact they were more entertaining and badass than any Autobot Combiner
they kicked Unicron's ass, literally....

but they're personalities for those who forgot or don't remember well

Grimlock: Arrogant Leader
Slag: Wants to Slag Decepticons, and possibly Bots'
Sludge: Dumb as slag
Snarl: Quiet, enjoys only combat
Swoop: Friendliest....nothing else




But........What about the Dinobot in TF2 based on old Lizard Lips himself




Quite frankly his character IMO was the most interestingly developed bot

and he is more like Grimlock, Slag, and Snarl than the other 2, but still.....well if you've seen BW from the beginning to the end then you know the deal with Dinobot, his own internal struggles with destiny, his betrayals, his honor, and obv. his hilarious conversations with Rattrap (The Low Road, specifically)




Screw making him a bigass tank or military vehicle, thats the Decepticons trademark alt. modes




Make Dinobot a bigger than average Velociraptor like he was in BW, about the same height as Jazz, of course raptors weren't 15 ft. tall but hey, he would be a Dinobot whose name was Dinobot.


and the question of being able to "disguise" him from the humans..................





Give Prime his trailer




Dinobot is a tough warrior who handles extreme situations with no fear
he is called upon like Omega Supreme was in G1, cept not as big
Dinobot is also the most skilled autobot in hand-hand combat, or sword-sword



anyone's opinions would greatly please my BW fetish

Anything's possible. But don't go getting your hopes up.

Well, they said the Dinobots. Not the singular character.

Secondly, having a dinosaur is kind of awkward considering the context of the movie is realism. However, having him be a militaristic vehicle with a robot mode that has dinosaur-esque features would work.

They'd have to be very careful how they handle that.. if they choose to do so at all..

I personally wouldn't touch it in with 10 foot pole. Animal forms of any kind in the movie, for the most part, are impractical when squaring off against tanks and jets.

If I was an alien robot that could choose any kind of disguise on earth *though techincally I'm thinking mechanical here.. unless I was a fleshy morphing Beast Machines style alien robot... but entry through the atmosphere might be a problem* the last thing I'd personally think of would be some animal that died millions of years ago.. and I'm being totally honest here. Dinosaurs worked in Beast Wars because they were like IN prehistory.. and were fighting like bugs and other animals and stuff. Plus it was a show for the younger crowd and they didn't have to impress a wider more discriminating audience. In theory, I don't think a raptor, or any dinsoaur for that matter, would have an advantage over a tank or a jet realistically. Giant mechanical dinosaurs aren't really helping the case either.

I personally think for what it's worth, the dinobots are best left either out of the movie outright or converted into autobot heavy duty military vehicles. But thats just my opinion, of course.

When an experiment was performed with pistons of equal strength to T-Rex and a skull of similar strength to bone..



So I hardly think flimsy metal planes are much trouble.

that's pretty damn cool, that last pic

Please. Just no.



Seriously, am I the only one not impressed by the Dinobots and their retarded antics?

Here's a crazy idea, but how about making the Dinobots' personalities - oh I don't know - match their G1 personas!! GASP!!

Grimlock: Dinobot leader who is idolised by his fellow Dinobots who love him as their brother, their captain, their king. Reciprocally he also loves and cares for the Dinobots under his command and would be enraged by anyone who wronged one of his Dinobots to the point where he would exact vengeance against them - a sentiment shared by all the Dinobots if anyone ever wronged one of their allies (e.g.: when the Dinobots attacked Galvatron after he killed Professor Morris). Detests weaker life forms but comes to realise that there are more to humans than meets the eye and that there are other forms of strength aside from brawn. His erroneous speech pattern and arrogant stubbornness beguiles a sharp mind and tactical wit that even rivals Prowl.

Slag: a Berserker in every sense of the word - when he goes into his enraged state, even his fellow Dinobots are in danger.

Sludge: not the greatest thinker but generally very good natured.

Snarl: brooding loner who revels in combat.

Swoop: A former member of the very exclusive Autobot Elite Flying Corps and the Dinobots' flying ace. Quite good natured but bears a personal vendetta against one of the Decepticon flyers - in G1 it was against Divebomb, but in the movie it could be against Starscream.

My suggestions for alt modes...

Swoop
Su-30 MKI

Snarl
M1126 Stryker Infantry Carrier

Sludge
AAV-7A1 (amphibious assault vehicle)

Slag
Sherman tank

Grimlock
A Ferrari...

Segway!

Well if they mirrored their comic book personalities they could work, but that goes back to an older argument.
The general audience isn't familiar with the comic adaptation of the G1. If the GA remembers the Dinobots it's as
cavemen-like comic relief characters, which I agree, wouldn't fit with the live-action Movie-verse.


That's the beauty of making him a tank though.
You have Autobots who transform into civilian automobiles and the Decepticons who transform into military vehicles (for the most part).
When you look at it the Autobots are at a severe disadvantage. So bringing in the Dinobots as Autobots with military vehicle forms
makes them sort of like the Autobot's last line of defence, their ace in the hole against a stronger enemy. Sort of like when the chips
are down you fight fire with fire.
So IF the Dinobots make an appearance in any of the live action movies I would give them military alt modes and incorporate dinosaur features
into their robot mode.

I agree with you there actually.
Comic Dinobots were rather cool.

But why must we insist on the Dinosaur inspired modes?
Drop the dinobot sub-faction name, And just call them by their character names.
Actually, drop the dinosaur inspiration altogether, and have them as a group of die-hard Autobots who embraced the Decepticons militaristic ways but didn't fall from grace.
Heck, have them have the "Only the strong deserve to rule" mentality, but also a "The strong must protect the weak" one as well.

No one seemed to have a problem with skorpinok...

Scorponok's robot mode was the scorpion mode. His alt mode was as part of Blackout's engine.
So his alt mode served him rather well, as it was able to get him into the heart of a US military base
before taking off after Lennox and crew. Furthermore, Scorponok's scorpion-based robot mode allowed him to tunnel
underground, where he wouldn't be spotted until he decided to strike.

With the Dinobots you would have the alt modes being robotic dinosaurs, alt modes which they more then likely wouldn't
use in a stealthy fashion.

when it comes to the dreamwave and idw comics grimlock has always struck me as being the type of person that is more brawn then brains by all outward appearances

but is in reality very intelligent in a very much deceptivly unintelligent manner of speaking , has a short temper and at times an even shorter fuse.

all together he strikes me as being in some part a take on the russians in that regard but those are just my thoughts

I seriously don't think including all of the dinobots (vehicle or dinosaur) is a good idea. It would mean less time for other new/existing characters to be developed. Too many characters being introduced too soon runs the risk of them being soulless.

They might get away with including one Dinobot, but not all.

As for Scorponok (why do so many people have trouble spelling his name?!? That and Devastator) in the movie he was essentially a drone rather than a fully fledged Transformer.

*looks from picture to Movie Wreckage*

Say what now?

Says you! Just because he was small and a bug doesn't mean that he can't feel, and love!

Really though, given the degree of characterization the 'Cons got in the movie, what's the real difference between Scorponok and Blackout?

In my eyes, making the Dinobots anything other than Dinosaurian robots -> Robotic Warriors is like making ThunderCracker a tank.

I think that there are many ways that the Dinobots could work as dinos that transform to robot warriors. First off that pic up further demonstrates very well that they would indeed fare well in modern warfare. Especially when you take into account that in the cartoon, and comics the Dinobots flew. So SS is basically screwed. Secondly say they crash near a Jurassic excavation, the biggest things around to scan would be the dino bones. Third what if they had come from a planet where dinos or dinoesque creatures still roam and assume that they might still roam some where here on earth and later find that they were wrong but it's too late to change so they just make due, and kick some Decepticon tail in their earth dino forms. Also lets assume that Big Grim, and his crew won't just let Megs get away, and followed him unknown to the other Autobots to bring Megs to justice for what he did to their buddy Bumblebee in the prequel to the movie.

Now the Prequel starts out with the words One Million years before the dawn of man. I know that Dinos were 365 million years ago. So if they couldn't scan any mechanical devices to blend in with out terrifying the animals, and protohumans they would need some organic alt modes their size so they check out the surroundings and nothing of their size is available or suitable so they scan the rocks for fossils like in Beast Wars, and bingo Dinos similar to their modified Cybertronian war modes. (They did after all partake in the gladiatorial events Megs held to find his new recruits.) So they scan the bones and go looking for Megs. Once they find him frozen in ice they leave him to his icy prison and stay on earth to ensure he doesn't escape. After a couple millennia they check his ice prison and find that there is still no sign of emp or robotic heart beat from him so they go into a cave and put their selves into stasis and get up every couple hundred thousand years to check on their prisoner.

Jump forward to movie 2 Ratchet notices a group of Autobot energy signatures activate and goes to investigate it only to find a very grumpy Grimlock and crew who just checked on their prisoner and he isn't there. SS returns with a huge gaggle of Decepticon warriors and chaos, and mayhem ensue.

Bay has confirmed no robot dinosaurs.
Doesnt mean we can't have tank Grimlock.

i don't think it would work if they were vehicles, they were called dinobots because they transformed into "dinosaurs". if they aren't going to be dinosaurs they shouldn't even be included.

Grimlock.. if no one else, cause hes a badass... dont make him dumb, make him like the comic book version from dreamwave were its just his vocal processor and hes not really stupid... well he wasnt really stupid in the g1 comics either... just dont make him dumb like in the cartoons lol

Much as I do like the Dinobots I tend to agree that they should be left alone and off the movie.