ROSEDOGGYDOG
Dec 4 2007, 11:30 PM
It won't surprise me if this gets moved then reposted by one of the N&R guys, sigh...QUOTE
It's no secret that Michael "Transformers" Bay prefers his high definition optical discs in
the Blu variety, but what we didn't know was how convinced the man is that the whole format war is nothing but a stalling tactic, with Microsoft pulling all the strings. Responding to a commenter angry over Paramount's decision to burn Optimus and friends onto HD DVD only, Bay claims to have the inside track on the "corporate politics" at play here, suggesting that "Microsoft wants both formats to fail so they can be heroes and make the world move to digital downloads." He goes on to claim that Redmond has only been financially backing HD DVD over "superior Blu-ray" to create "confusion in the market" until such time as high def digital downloading goes prime time. In other words, if you believe Bay, Microsoft is backing a known loser in order to prolong a war it doesn't want anyone to win. Pretty wild theory, if you ask us -- hey, this guy should make movies.
Wild theory? Yes. Believable? Yes. The bigger question, will TF2 be availble on DVD or not?
sertile
Dec 5 2007, 04:36 AM
Digital downloads should never happen, IMO, and MS needs to realize that they're still completely impractical at this point. As I have to keep pointing out, MOST areas are still on dialup internet (not most people necessarily, but most areas) and satellite internet is not a viable solution. Besides which, there are a lot of collectors like myself who only want hard copies and older people/Luddites who don't even own computers.
This whole debate just needs to die. I'll never purchase another Sony product because of their shady business practices, and I'll never purchase any hi-def movie format after watching Blu-Rays on my friend's PS3/HDTV and seeing no appreciable difference compared to his regular upscaled DVD's.
Buddykiller
Dec 5 2007, 04:42 AM
Powerglide that, i'm on 6mbps cable and refuse to download full dvd rips (6-9gb), let alone a high def one.
also, i can't stand to watch a 30 minute anime ep on my Powerglideing computer, theres no way i'm watching a 1.5, 2, or even 3 hour movie on here. i'd just down-convert it to dvd and watch it on my Powerglideing tv.
I.S.T.
Dec 5 2007, 06:10 AM
Digital Downloads are the future, but one that shouldn't come for at least 20 years...
Prime-Collector
Dec 5 2007, 06:33 AM
Digital download is the future of Movie RENTAL, Maybe TV, and probably music.
I think there will allways be a segment of the population that wants to OWN their entertainment, and downloads will be to ephemeral. I know things seem to be trending a certain way, but IMO it will level out and all this download stuff wont be as all consuming as it seems.
Hobbes-timus Prime
Dec 5 2007, 07:29 AM
I'll never be happy with a primarily downloaded market. I like extra discs and transforming cases and even the little leather jacket on my copy of "Grease".
QUOTE (sertile @ Dec 5 2007, 04:36 AM)

I'll never purchase another Sony product because of their shady business practices, and I'll never purchase any hi-def movie format after watching Blu-Rays on my friend's PS3/HDTV and seeing no appreciable difference compared to his regular upscaled DVD's.
Then something isn't right with your buddy's set-up. I work with HD-DVD and Blu-ray everyday and, on the right set-up, the difference is very clear.
However it requires the right TV (not just any technically HDTV will show a difference), the right cables, and often even some tweaking on the player/TV settings to get the best picture quality. All of which is a big pain, and has kept me from upgrading at home, myself.
But there is a noticeable difference when it's all set up right.
SUPREMEQUEEN
Jan 3 2008, 11:50 AM
QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Dec 5 2007, 09:33 AM)

Digital download is the future of Movie RENTAL, Maybe TV, and probably music.
I think there will allways be a segment of the population that wants to OWN their entertainment, and downloads will be to ephemeral. I know things seem to be trending a certain way, but IMO it will level out and all this download stuff wont be as all consuming as it seems.
Prime you took the words right out of my mouth. in my studies of the human animal I've learned that humans are EXTREAMLY tactile creatures & have a great need to touch & feel their surounding & belongings. it helps them to create a continuity of them selves & their world. for this reason & many others even music down loads will never full replace a physical format of any given media.
also I kinda predicted this 3rd format juming out from no where. some dude wanted help chooseing a dvd player & I posted my predictions of the format war there, damn I'm good.
( . Y . )
Jan 3 2008, 12:31 PM
Eh
Digital downloads are indeed the future- or at least digital content. But agreed, it won't be that way for some time to come.
MikePrime
Jan 3 2008, 01:17 PM
Well, there has to be some sort of motive behind exclusivity in this format war.
Oh, and Powerglide digital downloads. It's just an excuse for the studios to save money. I'd prefer a professionally made DVD over one that I burned myself.
ReverendNash
Jan 3 2008, 01:57 PM
I believe it. They want to license entertainment to you as opposed to sell it. That way they can "sell" you a license every time you want to watch/listen to it.
Then if they let you download persistent copies then you have the opportunity for Hard Drives to crash and completely wipe out your libraries...damn you have to buy it all over again, not to mention a persistent copy would be nearly impossible to stop piracy while keeping customer service in view. Apple has their computer specific downloads, but you can't go to a friends house to watch it there, their computer won't play it, then when I buy a new computer I have to download everything again (really though, you can authorize another computer, but there is a 5 machine limit to your account)! I want my hard copies. I love the artwork, the innovative packaging designs (cd's with sweet @$$ packaging: Peeping Tom, Tool: 10,000 Days, Idiot Flesh: Fancy just to name a few).
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