Predacons were considered second class citizens in Cybertron after the great war? Some peace... How is that?Were they treated like African americans with discrimations and segregation. Like the predacons wanted to be with the maximals. Did they have them in reservations like native americans or concentration camps like the german jews were. It would seem anything better than banishment or no longer living on Cybertron. Megatron claim they were slaves to the predacons. Were they? Like they were under Quintessons?

Nobody said the Autobots/Maximals were fair or good winners. Just because they call themselves "heroic" or "good" doesn't mean they are in reality - you examples illustrates that clearly.

I don't remember reading that the Maximals were cruel- especially along the lines of Nazi Germany as you mentioned above. The Predacons were just restricted in society in that they did not hold important government positions and had no real power on the planet. The Maximals ruled Cybertron, and the Predacons lived on it. The Preds didn't like the peace, and they especially didn't like the restrictions on their power. So, many Predacons, including the Tri-pedacus Council, sought to gain Predacon power through politics. Megatron, however, wanted total power through more direct methods, so he stole the Golden Disk and headed to prehistoric earth. At first, he just wanted to use the Energon deposits to gain power and return to Cybertron a conqueror, but when it became clear that wouldn't happen he sought to rewrite history as G1 Megatron had intended- by eliminating the dormant Optimus Prime in the Ark.

Bear in mind it was Megatron that said that, and I'm sure that to him, anything short of Predacons ruling Cybertron with an iron fist would be slavery.

Think of the Great War as World War 1 .. Germany gets beat, as were the decepticons apparently.. *going by what the autobots had going for them in the original show, I really have no clue how they could of pulled it off..* and in war, after it's all over.. treaties are made, and to the victor goes the spoils. Maximals rule cybertron as a result.. and don't want decepticon or predicon control again because of all the Blot they started many many centuries ago. WW2 started out in a simular fashion.. and if you want to run a parrallel with Beastwars Megatron to hitler.. it could be quite possible.. espically going by what a manical nut he was in Beast Machines.

Also remember the first season "probe" episode... in it, Dinobot was in no hurry to return to Cybertron and alluded to the cruel treatment he was liable to receive from both sides. He would've been a second class citizen by virtue of being a Predacon, would never have been accepted by the Maximal population at large, and most likely would've been viewed as a traitor by either party.

He WAS a criminal; he would have been punished for helping Megatron steal the Golden Disks.

But also, he always had a predacon mentality. Though he came to understand what the Maximals were before he died, he didn't fully understand them during that episode.

bah...everytime I see the word "predacon" I think G1 and badass.

History is written by victors of war.

Because the Autobots won the Great War, it is the Maximals who hold political power on Cybertron. This doesn't mean that the Predacons are enslaved or heavily discriminated against, it just means that there is a disbalance of political representation of Maximals in the Cybertronian government.

For example, the Australia is politically dominated by white men. This doesn't mean that people outside of this demographic are actively persecuted or discriminated against - nor is that to say that discrimination doesn't exist either, sadly it does - but it's no longer something that is actively tolerated or encouraged by the government. It was until 1969 which was the year that saw the abolition of the White Australia Policy and it was the Whitlam government which actively saw more policies acting to break down race and gender barriers, such as policies encouraging/enforcing equal opportunities and multiculturalism. But the fact remains that the majority of senators in the Parliament are still white males and that white men do have political dominance in this country.

"I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!"


The Predacons are in a similar boat - politically under-represented. Of course, this is also partially the fault of the Tripredacus Council who intentionally sit on their laurels, pretending that they're working to gain more political power for the Predacons but in reality do bugger all - after all, the Tripredacus triumvirate are not truly loyal to the Predacon cause (they, Tarantulas and the Blentrons all serve their Dark Lord). This would be part of the reason why you have so many malcontent splinter factions within the Predacons, such as those led by Megatron, Galvatron and Magmatron - all getting sick of Tripredacus' inability to gain tangible results, rallying other frustrated Predacons to their cause and forming all these rogue groups. Which of course, fits in perfectly with Tripredacus' plan to keep the Transformers race disunited (because if they ever truly united they would pose a threat to Unicron).

I've analysed this issue more thoroughly in my fan-made character profile (and fictitious essay) Dreadwave

Hold the phone now. The TV series showed that there was a triumvirate on Cybertron. The Predacons were not second class citizens, as the only Predacons to have shown in any fiction were the followers of Megatron.

They were a triumvirate subservient to the Maximals. The Council of Elders had the real power.

And Megatron may have been exaggerating, but I'm betting Predacons didn't live the easiest lives under Maximal rule.

Tripredacus weren't "subservient" to the Maximal Council but they certainly did possess less political power and influence than the Maximals. For example, while many countries are not subservient to the United States, they do not possess the same amount of single political influence in the UN that the US does.

don't know why, but that picture's kinda creepy.

Interesting topic and thoughts.

I always got the impression that Megatron was just exagerating about the Slaves thing while talking over dramatically to himself. I think to him any thing that wasn't galactic conquest was slavery.

As for the Pred council It's not as if they weren't planning on starting a war again some day. I don't think Megs was even pissed because it was taking so long. He was pissed cuz he wasn't in charge.

I agree that Megatron's reference to the Maximal "enslavement" of the Predacons was just a hyperbole.

I don't agree that Megatron was merely mad just because he wasn't in charge - there's no canonical evidence to suggest that he was primarily motivated by that sentiment.