I know it not but the color were the same and they had plan to use her maybe they already made the bike before the change and then put it in so they could had still used it

Yes. But remember a lot of the non-movie characters in the movie toyline have alt mode representations in the movie: Longarm's Tow Truck, The Osprey, The Black SUV, Arcee's Motorcycle, and The S7 Buggy.

The difference being that Arcee had been designed for the movie prior to production; the others are made-up robots based on random movie vehicles.

Allspark Power'D

Yup - we know this Pete

Or maybe there's more than one Fireblade in the world?

... Heck. If there's not then my Uncle owns Arcee.

not everyone does

I was just joking with you PeterHammer.

To put it simply: The bike's nor Arcee officially, and beyond that, nobody really cares.

The movie is riddled with cameos of alt modes from past toy lines.

There's a few aircraft that are the same type as an Air Minicon from Classics
The aircraft that fire the first wave rounds at Scorponok are the "oldies" limbs from Energon Superion
The copter from the beginning with the Air Force guys is from Universe Obsidian
Mikela's Vespa is (close enough to) the motorbike Minicon from Armada Perceptor.
Mission City motorcycle is E. Arcee.
Sector 7 Gun/Jeeps are Cybertron Hardtop

... Faulty logic.

Scooters all look damn near the same, the A10 warthog is the premier Tank buster, Osprey's are used as Transport copters everywhere..

You really were reading far too much into that cameo list.

Heaven forbid fantastical children's playthings resemble the real life basis which end up in a movie based on said children's playthings.

Calling them cameos or even references are misleading, though.

I HIGHLY doubt that those working with the movie gave even a tiny bit of thought about the fact that Energon Superion's limbs resembled A-10 Warthogs. At very most, they likely chose the vehicles first, and later on eventually said "Hey, there's a Transformer of this guy. Cool."

Just sayin'.

NO YOUR WRONG, THEY ARE CAMEOS, HASBRO LOVES USE DAMNIT!!!!!!
-the city where the battle takes place is clearly a reference to Metroplex.

I have to disagree with you. When people are making and producing videos, they put more into the movie than their name in the credits.

Obvious example: the 217 in Sam's eBay name is Bay's birthday (Feb 17). That was not a coincidence. That was planned.

Not so obvious example ("Herbie Fully Loaded"): Maggie (Lohan) pays $75 for Herbie. Jim Douglas (Dean Jones) paid $75 for Herbie in the first flick.

Here's another one: (Final Fantasy Advent Children): Cloud's original Buster Sword that's stuck in the ground overlooking Midgar is the spot where Zack (the person Cloud emulates during FF7) was killed. The Buster Sword is the sword Cloud took from Zack after the death. (Yep, took it right off IMDB. Sue me.)

The point I'm trying to make is that nothing in movies happens by accident. There is not a doubt in my mind that people from Hasbro, Dreamworks, Spielberg, The US Military, et al, had a powwow one day to discuss what vehicles-turned-TFs could be placed in the movie. It's the little things that are worked into the film that makes a movie that much more satisfying to watch.

And when all the kiddies watching the movie for the 100th time go to play with their TFs, look at one of them and realize it was in the movie, there's no greater sense of "Wow! Cool!"



Cameos are simply acknowledgments to something because it means something to where the cameo appeared. In this case, cameo appearances from previous TransFormers toy lines are quite justified in a TransFormers movie.

"I want those boys stateside, right now." Everytime I see that post-Skorponok-attack scene, I expect that rescue chopper to transform into Blades

So let me get this straight.
You are seriously suggesting that the only reason there is an Osprey, a Motorbike, a Scooter and such, is that there are Transformers of them...

You ever noticed how there is a Transformer of damn near everything now?

Well.........they could say that Arcee was created during the All Spark drop. She became an Autobot because a good soldier was handling her

Actually, the bike in the concept art was a different brand (a Buell), the one in the movie was an Aprilia.

However, I do think that the scene is a hold-over from the original drafts of the movie, before Arcee was replaced by Ironhide.

I am suggesting that there is a certain coordination going on between Filmmakers, Toy Companies, and Vehicle Manufacturers to enhance the viewing experience of a film.

There could have been any other vehicles and the movie still would have brought in the same exact number of dollars. However, because the people who made the movie enjoyed or still enjoy the TransFormers franchise, they decided to add in these minor little things. Were they major focal points of the film? No. They're just things thrown in for eagle-eyed viewers to catch and appreciate.

... Okay then.

I'll be sure to let the US military know that the only reason they use Ospreys is because of a Minicon..

*Throws sensibility away and plops you on ignore*

Sarcasm wins yet again.

A WoblinGoblin is spotted on the airbase in Quatar, Cybertron Soundwave. A Warthog(FU OK 2) is attacking Skorpy, Cybertron Wingsaber is a heavily modded Warthog. You see quite a few of the G1-Cyb IRL vehicles throughout the movie. That could be a nod or guess what THEY CHOOSE FRAGGIN POPULAR VEHICLES FOR MOVIES, AND HAS/TAK CHOOSE POPULAR VEHICLES FOR THEIR TOYS... eeeshh We know that the movie producers put these things in for us to be all warm'n'fuzzy over, and no doubt just by luck we got a couple of extras in as a bonus by mistake. Think about it when you are getting cars ready for a movie of this size you have a wishlist, Say 75% of those you get will be your choices. The rest will be vehicles that were popular enough to be used in other movies, and if they are popular enough that movie studios use em as extras then they will certainly be popular enough to exsist as a Transformer. Hell look at the Energon Bruticus tanks, those are REAL http://www.army-technology.com/projects/tunguska/ so dont be supprised if vehicles that are Transformers in toy form appear purely by chance or by choice in future movies...

Actually I recall Wreckage was supposed to show up in the movie under the moniker of Striker or some nonsense. There's a youtube video out there some place with pre production sketches.

... edit ..

Found it.. here it is.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zv2YpkRtZRo

nothin to do with arcee of course.

"Stryker" is the M1126 vehicle's actual name.

I doubt the toy would have had the same name, so perhaps they would have called him "Wreckage" after all.

The Motorcycle in the movie was just that a motercycle It wasnt Arcee, so dont get all moist over It, I just hope they dont think about putting Arcee in the next movie that would probably ruin it.