I can't wait to fix it.

Been saying that for MONTHS.

I'm going to.

how do you edit ISO Files?

well. I'd take out the stuff with the computer people. and the fat guy's house.

LOSE

One of the best scenes...with the fat friend running through the door into the pool.

i think i would take out the whole cop scene, and the barking dogs - all of that fell flat to me and iam not quite sure what it contributed.

I agree with both comments above - i would love to get rid of 90% of anthony anderson but i would hate to lose the fat dude falling in the pool.
However i dont think you can just remove it, i think you would actually have to reshoot that stuff for it to make sense.
(ie- anthony anderson should have been one of the hackers originally - there was no need for ladybird to sneak out of the DOD and run around town and stuff)

I think you could pull all the hacker crap and not notice.Pete's an Admin, He's gonna Starscream Edit the movie.

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seriously removing the hacker crap could work, just make it the first time their seen being at the Hoover dam.

I don't understand this.

I plan on getting the movie, but I don't see how you'll be able to edit the DVD. I'm unfamiliar with this. Do you just put the movie onto a computer, edit it and save it to a DVD and keep that as your movie and then maybe toss the real thing?

Explain.

Not that I plan on doing any of it since I think the movie's perfect as is and can be left alone.

It's a bit more complicated but you got the idea. And in the end, probably not worth the effort. I'm just cutting out a lot of stupid "roll your eyes" crap like Bernie Mac, Bumblebee's music, the backyard scene, and the hackers. all unnecessary. I'm going to try to get rid of the "senstive to cold" thing too, but I don't think I can.

I don't know why the backyard scene gets so much criticism. Its really well done. And Shia Vs. Mom Vs. Prime is fantastic!

It doesn't stretch credibility any more than say, Robots in Trench Coats, you know the source material and stuff.

The idea is to help the movie make *more* sense, not less.

Honestly, the biggest problem with the movie (IMO) is Sam and Bumblebee's relationship not having enough punch. And yes, part of the problem is all the clutter around that plot thread. But I don't think that just cutting it out wholesale is necessarily the best solution.

And I totally agree with Hunter. I loved the Autobots in the back yard scene. They need to have a scene where they actually act human, for goodness' sake. ("human" being a relative term, of course.) One of my favorite lines is a line that a lot of people hate - Prime stepping on a birdbath and saying "my bad". It just reminds me a lot of the way Prime would awkwardly try to engage with Spike in "earth lingo" in G1. "Am I drooling correctly?"

I wouldn't change the movie one damn bit.

Am I dooling correctly? wtf? Where is that from?

I think all of the Satan's Camero and the cop and the dogs screentime should have been spent with Sam and Miles just having the car. Going on a little road trip, the whole thing of him picking Miles up from his home and driving to the pond should have been a big moment.

Dad should have made him wash the car. Maybe Sam offers to go grocery shopping for mom, cause you know, now hes got a trunk. All that stuff that having your first car is about.

I remember my first car. And i never got chased by Dogs while i was in it. But i did back up into my fence.

Pete and I chatted about this some time ago - but I remember when the first trailers were coming out and we both reacted so strongly to the trailer clip of BB being captured and Spike yelling - "He's not going to hurt you".

It was like a super awesome gut punch of manly awesome sentimentality.

But then when that scene finally arrives in the film... it falls completely flat. In fact i dont think that line/take was even in the final film.

But that interaction was supposed to be where the HEART of the movie was.

I agree.

Not much point in wasting time "editing" when you can fast forward through any bits that don't fit your fanboy needs.

totally

"Am I drooling correctly" was from an episode where Spike was teaching Optimus about basketball. Prime also said "I'm going for a layoff" in that scene.

I never said it was funny.

edit: although it was funny when Prime chucked the ball at Spike and said "here Spike, compute quickly."

I'd put the deleted scenes back in, and not remove pieces of the current film, as is.

Show me how to do that, and I'll be a happy camper.

...how the hell would you edit an already made movie??

you have to be awesome

I'm accepting gthe flaws in this movie the same as I accept the flaws in my friends, family and anything else that I like. Nothing's perfect and I like it just like that.

The same amount of people who edited out every child from any Jurassic Park movie.

the kids were only symptomatic of the real problem, which was the overall tone of the movie. Phantom Menace'D

I can't wait to get my hands on the TF DVD.

Did they ever play football with Spike and friends or is that how Chip ended up in a wheelchair?

I cut it down to 45 minutes. 45 wonderful minutes. But I somehow added more hackers. Whoops.

honestly, i wish i knew how to edit DVDs. because if i could, then bye bye Munky

You know, you really are acting like a stubborn lame-o, because that scene with Starscream and the F-22s was uber awesomeness supreme. Just call him Dreadwing or something.

you KNOW there's already a dreadwing in the movie-verse...

if i want to edit munky out of the movie, i can

ok maybe just any part referring to him as "Starscream"

Well, that is his name. I didn't see anyone in the movie called "munky."

Oh definitely.

I'd take out the ghey dance scene and replace Al's Dare to be Stupid with GNR's Welcome to the Jungle.

Oh wait wrong movie.

So, no.

Recutting a movie is something a Gheybo fanboy would do

just saying......

hey now!

It all depends on how you approach it. If you're just like "I don't like X so I want to cut it out" then yeah that's kinda lame. But if you approach it from a film editing POV (and if the film could actually benefit from editing), you can do some cool stuff. I've done it with Revenge of the Sith... it's pretty easy to make a way better movie by just trimming some of the slowness / linking scenes together more effectively. I have several more movies in my To Be Edited queue, which I will get to... eventually.

^


Okay, yeah I guess. If you can do it why not.

I've just never been that picky with movies I like. No movie is perfect.

if I took out everything that I didn't like or bothered me about the TF LAME I could benefit fine by just rewatching the trailers. As movie experience it all fits together fine and really is no better no worse than most of the Hollywood special effects movies I've seen or own.

I only decide to edit a movie if I think it could use some actual editing (and if I care about the movie enough to do it). It's not meant to be a magic fix for everything, because sometimes a movie just has flaws in the script or directing or acting, and there's not much you can do about that. As an example, one of the movies I want to edit is the first Harry Potter movie. It's over three hours long, but the book it's based on is way shorter than the others. It's just way. too. long. And it's mega ghey too. So I just want to see what I can do if I tighten it up and take out some of the gheyer bits.

With Transformers, I'm mainly interested in seeing if I can do anything to punch up the Sam/Bumblebee story more. I think the movie wasn't sure if it wanted to tell the audience a story about a kid and his car, or some army dudes in the desert.

doesnt mean i have to call him by that

I just watch them landing over and over. Curseing the stupid fat kid telling the Bhey joke.

You know why your Starscream thing is really lame? Because it's the most superficial kind of criticism you could possibly make. "He doesn't look the way I want him to." What? Are you a child? Look at Prime-Collector. He's just as weirdly obsessed with the movie as you are, but at least he has some legitimate reasons for not liking it (when he cares enough to express them). Do you think you're the only person who didn't love one of the movie designs? So what. Grow up already.

Didn't we have this conversation with Atmo way back before the movie was released?

Oh yeah, right. Never mind.

And several times since as I recall.

no my reasoning is that he was kept the same in every cartoon he appeared in. his looks were etched in stone and this does not match them!

what do you mean "grow up"? are you saying i HAVE to like munky or i wont be grown up? are you oppressing your opinion onto me?

i simply said i was going to edit munky out of the movie. it's my DVD. i can do with it what i want. YOU get over it

You can do whatever you want. We don't care. None of us ever cared. It is just that you keep bringing it up over and over and over again.

We KNOW. Now Shut Up.

I mean, grow up. I'm not saying you have to like anything. It's just childish to get hung up on something so insignificant as a character's physical appearance. It's really stupid.

all i said was what i would do if i could edit the DVD. you guys are blowing what i said out of proportion due to what i've said in the past. i never wanted to make this an arguement. i was just being honest...

I know I'm way late on this. But I don't really give a Blot.
The problem is your "i'm gonna edit 'munky' out" statement. It is condescending and immediately brings up past arguements. Had you phrased it differently, you might have not gotten the response you did, or you might still have. *shrugs*




As far as editing the movie. I can't edit out the parts I would like to, due to how it was handled in the movie. Those scenes would have to be re-shot and re-done totally. The only other option I would do - would cut out ALL of the hackers, anthony anderson, and the signal. But even that wouldn't work, due to the way it's shot. So I can't really edit it to make sense, not that I want to edit it (since I can't re-shoot scenes).

*Isn't going to edit sqaut. Is going to love the movie, warts and all*






Edit:
Not moles, Buh

i see your point and agree. i should not have called the F-22 bot an insulting name if i didnt want an arguement. my sincerest apologies to any fans of the F-22 bot

I've watched it twice now/Once with commentary.

I see so little point in editing an already well edited movie.

I don't get all the angst over the hacker subplot. The scenes all are fairly short and to the point. They really don't drag the pacing all that much but are a fun diversion from the already ample action. I still think the scene where the feds burst into Anderson's place is fricken hilarious and totally fits the tone of the movie. Everybody I've watched it with have laughed at the "shutup Grandma" line as well as the big black guy falling into the pool. The hacker subplot also dovetails beautifully with Sam's subplot in the third act. The only bit that really feels out of place especially for the first hour is the military subplot.

Also cutting the hiding out at Sam's house scene is criminal. The visual work here is incredible and it's coupled in with some really funny moments that again fit the overall tone of the movie. Also this whole thing leads into the S7 subplot which again dovetails into the third act.

Just thought of this. The hacker subplot as useless as everybody makes it out to be actually provides the film with a lot more realism than it would have if not for it. It's kind of silly to think a Middle Eastern base and Airforce One can be hacked without the Pentagon or anyone watching. The comic adaptation does a decent job gutting this all but then you don't see what happens to Frenzy in the end either.

Maybe they could first be seen when Keller picks them up from the interrogation room. A short off screen line like "are these the hackers that decrypted the files?" before he actually comes in the room, and everybody goes home happy.

Why? It's already Ree-Ree-Edited.