I know Jazz "died" in the movie but on his repaint card his bio stated that Ratchet fixed him and he chose that paint job with Ratchet, and BB's help. So if that is considered part of the movie universe then that should mean that he'll be back in the next movie sporting his G1 style right?

I think Ratchet will build a matrix frame and place the allspark section in it giving optimus the power to create new life and thus in turn fix up our man Jazz

Sucks that they totalled him in the movie!!!

''Whats crackin little Protectobots''

Yeah I'd love to see him return. Was REALLY upset when he died. So upset I reversed my car into a concrette pillar outside the cinema. I wanted to see more of him. But I'm not sure the Movie universe should go down the Matrix story-line. That's been done already. I know the Creation Matrix is TF cannon, but maybe the new Movie universe should do a different story.

Maybe Prime could use the Allspark shard to repair Jazz or something. I'm not sure. But I did think it was a mistake to kill him. Yes he had a noble, courageous death, but not that noble and courageous. He was such a good character on screen I feel we need more time to get to know him better. If they have more TF time and less Human time in movie 2 as the rumours state, then there's no reason why there can't be more than enough room for new characters and Jazz and the first movie characters.

Interesting what is said on his G1 colour movie fig bio about Ratchet repairing him. But from what we've seen in the Movie and discussion here already, I think it's fairly clear that when a TF looses his Spark that's it, hasta-lasagne. Unfortunately.

All I know is hints/rumors have been dropped by people working on the movie that Jazz may come back in the sequel.

I hope not. What's the point of killing the robots if they don't stay dead?

Ask Optimus. He knows.

Agreed.

Also agreed.

Though maybe that's why Optimus wasn't all that broken up over it.

The movie writers can do whatever they want, of course, but I would definitely NOT use a toy bio as any kind of indication of anything aside from "Hasbro wants you to buy this toy".

We already know that Megs will be back. I mean they can't do a sequel if he doesn't. Well not with out coming up with a new leader.

Exactly. We don't know anything. No script has been written. Given the way the movie ended, anything is possible for a sequel. But I wouldn't go looking for clues in the first movie or anything. The sequel may not even be written by the same guys.

I recall no such hints/rumors from any movie people.



I seem to recall in the interview thread the movie screenwriters indicated they're probably NOT going to do the sequel - as they'll be busy with the new Star Trek movie. I'd also say that they're pretty out of the loop now and take much of what they say with a grain of salt, especially since they seem to be a bit tongue-and-cheek about the situation.

There's no reason for Jazz to come back. They were planning for a character to die, and stay dead.

I really hope Megs doesn't come back either, but that's IMO

Fantastic Four'D

If he were to come back to life just to get PWNED again... well that'd be an awful lot like the first movie... and truer to G1, I guess

I really would rather not have Jazz return. Like everyone else, I wish he didn't have to die, but I think reviving him would make for a rather dull story. Once a regular character dies, he's dead. Otherwise the plot is pointless.

Reviving Megatron, on the other hand, could be a major plot point. I wouldn't mind seeing him come back (preferably more powerful than ever).

Awww Jazz.... Well. Get crackin Ratchet.

Oh thank you for giving me hope for the sequel to have a decent story!

Crazy Mythos theory Number 217.

The residual energy of the fragment of the Allspark reclaimed from Megatron's corpse Combined with Optimus Spark it creates the Creation Matrix which he then uses on Jazz to test it's new powers. Also it gives him the Target exclusive G1 paint job...

crazy follow up:
Remnants of Sector Seven copies the energy signiture of the Allspark using another recovered fragment and residual energy to create substitutes and introduce the Energon Cubes.

My own personal theory is Jazz became the spare parts for Bumblebee's new legs and various other repair jobs for the others. Waste not, want not.

in the transformers universe anything is possible. optimus died and was brought back. In beast wars Optimus Primal was sent to an exploding moon and Rhinox was able to bring back his spark through virtually exploring the matrix.
can i be honest though, the movie was very inconsistant. aside from poor character developement, the movie didn't make sense. why did frenzy's head got chopped off of his body and he was able to survive and then touched the allspark and regenerate his body. why did jazz die and not frenzy.
if we are ever to see galvatron, somehow megatron spark will have to be rekindled one way or another.
i think anything is possible and would like to see jazz come back.

Why not bring back Frenzy then? Or Brawl? Or Blackout? Or Bonecrusher?

I would MUCH rather see Frenzy come back.

I'm torn.
I hate 'comic book deaths' and when someone dies they should stay dead.

But I like Jazz so much!

There was an interview with some people who worked on the movie and are planning on working on the sequel. I forget where it was (really just chance that I came across it and stupid me didn't bookmark it in my favorites). But there was one other person on the boards here who saw the same article.

And I think Darius McCreary said something or other...again, I think he did.

I hope not. He's dead. Make space for Grimlock, Arcee, or HotRod.
Even Prowl would be welcome.

Maybe revived, with new look / alternate mode?Anyway, I think rather than Jazz, they should revive Megatron (obviously!) and Bonecrusher. I mean, look, they said they gonna include Constructicons on the sequel, but without Bonecrusher, I'm sure the forthcoming Devastator (not Brawl), will be kinda... different and not true to G1.

The Universe ones managed pretty well without Hook, Scrapper, or Mixmaster.

I hope Jazz stays down for the count. Yeah, he was cool, but killing off a character and making them stay dead is important; otherwise the impact of their death becomes dulled. They brought back Prime in G1 mostly because of fan blacklash, but also because everyone hated Rodimus.

The screenwriters are too busy to make a sequel because of Star Trek? STAR TREK? Pfft. No one cares about Star Trek anymore. If it doesn't have Jedi, pirates, boy wizards, superheroes with spider powers, transforming alien robots, or Hobbits trying to destroy a ring, it doesn't deserve more than two movies.

Besides, the bio stating Jazz was rebuilt is just so kids won't question buying a "dead" character; they don't understand the concept of a repaint. In the toyline he's alive, but in the movie continuity he's dead. Even if his revival is canon, he'll be killed off again or be sent on a "mission" far away before the start of the next movie.

Ratchet: "We can use what's left of the All Spark to revive Jazz!"

Optimus: "Really? 'Cause I was gonna make the Dinobots and stuff. I don't know how much juice this thing has left, so I want to make it count."

Ratchet: "Hmm...good point. Well then, let's get cracking! Spik--uh, Sam! Let's go to the museum!"

Caine - It's just a name. Just because Bonecrusher shared his name with a past Constructicon doesn't mean he's a part of Devastator. If Devastator shows up, he'll be made of five or six all new Decepticons.

Um you mean just Scrapper, and Mixmaster. They had Hook. Crane truck remember? Anyways I like my Custom Cl Devastator. Thanks to just a little re engineering he has all 6 Constructicons.

As opposed to all of the geewun akur8-ness of the first movie?

I think there's plenty of room for Jazz to return and for new characters like Prowl, Soundwave etc. I think he was a great character in the film and a mistake to kill him off. Yes he had a heroic death, but it wasn't that heroic. Jazz deserves more!

Jazz was the coolest charcter. maybe they should have brought Arcee and made her die.

.....................................ok Transformers II " Beyond the Grave"

I personally like the 'allspark fragment turned into matrix' idea. Would prefer that it were used as a minor background plot though, say with Ratchet spending time trying to understand how it works and then using it to bring Jazz back at the end of the film. (would give a nice sense of hope to the autobots in that they may be able to revive some of the many fallen heroes) Agree that other than Megs none of the 'dead' deceps should be back though - would love a shot of megs at the bottom of the ocean at the end of TF2 with eyes glowing...... (could be feasible as he was exposed to the full extent of the allsparks energy) Shockwave for villain in TF2 tho!

Uh, you're joking about Jar-Jar I mean Frenzy, right? Sarcasm is so hard to convey on the interwebs.

IMO, Jazz should RIP. Reviving him would make his sacrifice rather pointless. While the Allspark seems to have regenerative and life giving qualities, the Cybertronians didn't seem to know how to use it properly or create sentient life even, never mind bringing back the dead. To them, it is a long lost reilc. I'm sure we'll learn a lot more about the nature of Cybertronian death and the powers of the Allspark in the next flick.

Sorry, First time poster and I just had to bump this topic to get my personal view across.

I believe Jazz will be revived. It is a technique used most noted in Final Fantasy 7 where one of the less liked characters (Cait Sith) died and is brought back to life, just to amplify the death of a much more loved character (Aries).

Jazz will be brought back, and We shall watch the film happy as Larry until Prime gets his face ripped off and his spark ripped from his chest, Put in a brown paper bag and given to him.
Then and only then do we come to terms with the fact that if Jazz had stayed down, Prime might not have suffered such a fate.
Although Prime may not die, It will be someone we care for more than Jazz.

Darius Mc Creary on the other had has been reported to suggest Jazz's return to the film canon according to Wikipedia.

Megatron will return as well in my opinion. Assuming that the Film writers will aim at a trilogy if TF2 goes ahead, Megatron will return, Die and then come back as Galvatron in the third instalment.
I doubt Hasbro will just wish to realese a purple version of Movie Leader Megatron (especially since the toy sucked) and will therefore more than likely demand Galvatron somewhere in the film canon.

I sure hope not. I've had enough retcon for this decade.

to this thread

just accept it already

Dude. Honestly I hope not. Jazz was...well my least favorite bot in the movie. Not that I'm biased but, you can't take the bios into the movies. Cuz...well...last time I checked there were about three different 'cons that ripped out BB's voice thingy.

I should have added my personal view that I don't really want Jazz to come back either. I was just stating a more than likely possibility that the writers will follow. Especially since so many younger fans want him back and even though we all sit here saying that we don't want him across the internet, Bay is likely to ignore us / put him in out of badness as I don't think Bay like us that much anymore (Looks to person(s) out there that Hacked Bays comp).

However, I would like to see a proper death/burial scene for Jazz, maybe added as an extra in the DVD for TF2, or maybe shown at the start of TF2 (although, They couldn't really do that due to the y TF ends).

Jazz Is Done Keep Him Dead, As For Bonecrusher Big Screw Up And Let Down The Whole Concept Of Having Live Action Constructicons Is Ruined In my Opinion And Brawl Being Called Devistator Bay Really Rushed The Movie there. Megatron A possability I Mean Transformers With No Megatron Makes No Sence Have Megatron Come Back At The End Of TF2 As Some Sort Of Powerful Sea Alt Mode. Arcee Should Definetly Be In TF2 Soundwave Should Be Some Sort Of Vehicle With A Satlelite Dish Like A News Van I Mean It Would Work THe Perfect Cover. And Shockwave Is A Must I Liked His Alt Modes In The Game ThatCould Work For The Movie. Blitzwing And Springer Could Really Work Too Maybe In The Later Sequals. Heres An idea In The Middle Of TF3 Have Unicron Make A Come Back Not As A Planet But As A Transformer That Can Cloak Himself And Take The Form Of Anything He Sees And Move In For The Kill And Have Him Until The End Of TF5 If The Movie Sequals Do Goi That High. I Mean Come on The Teaser Poster Of The Eye It Has To Be the Eye Of Unicron. And To End This Grimlock Has To Be In the Movies

Congrats. You failed second grade english.

The face in the teaser poster is the Autobot symbol FYI.

Whoa... ease off the capatilization, man.

I think they should bring Jazz back as a Decepticon. He could be brought back by Galvatron and reprogrammed to help the 'Con cause. Of course, he'd probably flip sides when his memory started coming back.

TF vs GI Joe volumes II, III and IV did a good job of not reviving Megatron, and they're some of the best TF stories I've seen this decade.


why bring back him instead of introducing one of the other 8 billion characters audiences want to see?

people forget how movies work... Jazz is gone

You forget that Cait Sith was a remote controlled entity. Killing one body doesn't matter, another could be sent out. It literally meant nothing.

Jazz will be replaced by his twin brother, Meister.

I hate you.

The emporer will use the cloning technology to bring him back to life and then take him as his appretice in turn hunting down all the remaining jedi!!!!! MWAH HA HA HA HA HA

We did not know that Cait Sith was a remote controled entity until after his supposed sacrafice. The game even built his 'death' up as if he would not return. We he did return, the remote control thing was how it was explained. Jazz will more than likely have a similar fate, That is what I am saying