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Bumbl3bee
Does anyone know what happened to Barricade in the movie?
Asthaloth
My theory; Hiding.
He got his ass wupped by BB earlier on and seeing Prime et al sporting big guns and no intent to hide anymore I reckon he figured Hiding was the better idea.

I see him more as the covert ops kinda guy.
Wikkid
If he;s anything like the real police, they don't show up when needed.

I'd guess he was harassing a d00d for window tint or some other obscure offence in the books.
masterminicon
If you look, he changes lanes in the highway chase. He accidentally got off on the wrong exit and is now in Las Vegas wondering where the heck all the action is. Damn internal GPS systems never work I tell you. On the plus side, he's making a load of dough at the slots.

Seriously, one of the writers said that question would be answered on the DVD release on the special in regards to the sequel.
Primal-Convoy
1/ He parked in the wrong part of town and had his wheels removed and found it impossible to transform due to him resting on bricks?

2/ He got mutilated by the savage people at "pimp my ride". Hes now neon yellow and had his transformation cog replaced with a fishbowl, two subwoofers and a beer fridge. His CPU is now powering an in-car PS3 entertainment system.

3/ He got clamped.

4/ He started surfing ebay and is now so hooked he cant leave earth until he tracks down a toy version of himself that is actually any good.

5/ He found love via myspace (it worked for soundwave).

etc
Hip-Hoptimus Rime
I finally got to see the movie a 2nd time, and I was looking out for this very thing. I must say, I think I saw one of his doors in the final battle for an instant, as Ironhide was clearing the way for Sam, just before the now-infamous loose silver 5-spoke wheel and axle appears on-screen. Frankly the scene went by so fast I could be wrong. Can't wait to find out tho!
splendic
Well, according the official adaptation comic, Prime offed him right after Bonecrusher. It's what took OP so long to get to the fight.
Pessimist Prime
He's not killed by Ironhide, that was not a Saleen Mustang that was destroyed in the Blackout firing on Ironhide scene. He simply is not shown. The writers said it was something to be addressed later 'robots in disguise', whatever that means.
xeonshock
Barricade was busy buying stuff on ebay.
Calcifer
If you wait for the DVD and the officials keep their word, you'll know. They promised answers and said something vague about Barricade and the sequel. My money is on him being alive.
OmegaX80
Barricade was very evil in the movie. I hope he's alive.
splendic
Anyone read the novelization? I remember hearing he was dead.
masterminicon
QUOTE (splendic @ Aug 8 2007, 10:38 PM) *
Anyone read the novelization? I remember hearing he was dead.



The problem with that, and any movie novelization for that matter, is there's going to be a fair amount of discrepencies between the novel and what's actually on the screen. And the on screen stuff is the official stuff. Novels are made from not always completed screenplays. They usually have a draft that they turn into a novel that's pretty accurate to the film. Again, discrepencies are abundant.

Read SW Ep II novel. There's stuff in there that never even made it onto film, like this whole thing involving a recurring dream that Anakin keeps having. I don't remember if it's about his mother or if it was a Force induced dream involving a glimpse into the future or something.

Anyways, so yeah, the novel is nice, but I take it with a mild grain of salt due to the discrepencies.

In other words, there's a good chance that the draft that Foster got when he was asked to write the movie novelization, that the whole highway chase thing was altered later, and by that time it was too late to change the book which would have set back the release date. That same draft may also have been the source for the comic adaptation. In both versions, Jazz's spark is destroyed by Megatron. Not so in the film. In the movie, he's just ripped in two.
Pun-3X
MMM's correct. Novels can be a fun way of looking at the movie's story a bit differently. It's not going to match up either because of added or changed scenes. Often times, novel writers will take liberties and do their own bits to liven up their story as they desire. I haven't read the TF novel nor the leaked/original (?) script, so I couldn't say where the book leans. But differences in a novel based on a movie are quite common.


Personally, I like Barricade. I'm hoping they left his fate alone in the movie because they decided to keep him, and we see him in the sequel.
Omaru
I think He got lost, or stopped for donuts XD, seieously tho, I just couldn't get that past me, where in bloody hell is he?
shockprowl
It's a bit of a large hole in the plot when a character just vanishes. I hope he's alive too. I liked him alot. Maybe he saw the error of his ways and decided to leave the Decepticons for a life of fighting crime. Maybe he wanted to be the new Knightrider!
My Alt. Mode Sucks
The truth is...

He had to leave because he was being sued by Ford for appearing in a movie where everything else is clearly a GM-owned property, and he couldn't miss his trial
Mom
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 05:03 PM) *
The truth is...

He had to leave because he was being sued by Ford for appearing in a movie where everything else is clearly a GM-owned property, and he couldn't miss his trial


Except that the particluar Mustang in the movie wasn't a Ford product but a Saleen.

My money's on his ass living. Just his ass though....he now turns into a Powerwheels Barbie car.
My Alt. Mode Sucks
QUOTE (death333 @ Aug 11 2007, 07:15 PM) *
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 05:03 PM) *
The truth is...

He had to leave because he was being sued by Ford for appearing in a movie where everything else is clearly a GM-owned property, and he couldn't miss his trial


Except that the particluar Mustang in the movie wasn't a Ford product but a Saleen.

My money's on his ass living. Just his ass though....he now turns into a Powerwheels Barbie car.


Ah, so that's why they could get away with not giving credit to Ford?

And hey, who knows...a PINK Barricade might frighten AND confuse everyone.
Mom
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 08:44 PM) *
QUOTE (death333 @ Aug 11 2007, 07:15 PM) *
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 05:03 PM) *
The truth is...

He had to leave because he was being sued by Ford for appearing in a movie where everything else is clearly a GM-owned property, and he couldn't miss his trial


Except that the particluar Mustang in the movie wasn't a Ford product but a Saleen.

My money's on his ass living. Just his ass though....he now turns into a Powerwheels Barbie car.


Ah, so that's why they could get away with not giving credit to Ford?

And hey, who knows...a PINK Barricade might frighten AND confuse everyone.


Not exactly. Ford did give the rights to use the car since it is technically thiers but they mentioned that they didn't want kids relating ford to the bad guys so they opted the route of not having thier company name mentioned with thier product. PR move basically.
Prime-Collector
He fell into a plot hole. Landed in a somewhere in a Ewe Bole movie never to be seen again.
Agent TMan
He was chillin at my crib.........*whispers* Somebody help. He won't leave. The cat's been missing for days now.
Mom
lol
My Alt. Mode Sucks
HE'S UNDER YOUR BED

SLEEP WELL TONIGHT, MOTHA TRUCKA
trench
QUOTE (death333 @ Aug 11 2007, 05:09 PM) *
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 08:44 PM) *
QUOTE (death333 @ Aug 11 2007, 07:15 PM) *
QUOTE (My Alt. Mode Sucks @ Aug 11 2007, 05:03 PM) *
The truth is...

He had to leave because he was being sued by Ford for appearing in a movie where everything else is clearly a GM-owned property, and he couldn't miss his trial


Except that the particluar Mustang in the movie wasn't a Ford product but a Saleen.

My money's on his ass living. Just his ass though....he now turns into a Powerwheels Barbie car.


Ah, so that's why they could get away with not giving credit to Ford?

And hey, who knows...a PINK Barricade might frighten AND confuse everyone.


Not exactly. Ford did give the rights to use the car since it is technically thiers but they mentioned that they didn't want kids relating ford to the bad guys so they opted the route of not having thier company name mentioned with thier product. PR move basically.

The way these deals are written, and GM had "exclusive" rights, Ford wouldn't have even been given the opportunity to officially license the Mustang. (Saleen's deal with Ford obvioulsy allows them rights to independenly market "Saleen products" that are based on Ford cars as long as the "Ford" logos are removed.) This "bad guy" thing I've seen floating around the interwebs is something someone who doesn't know about licensing or marketing made up (my guess is it came from a Ford fan apologist).
Trabar643
Hi
im new on this board.
My question. Barricade has the number 643, and why ? by Michael Bay birthday?
trench
Bay's birthday is February 17th, hence "ladiesman217."
masterminicon
Didn't the writers say something about the DVD having info on him as an easter egg or something in regards to where he was and his potential role in the sequel? If so, I must have missed it.
Nomolos
so the answer is "nobody knows"?
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (nomolos @ Dec 1 2007, 12:51 PM) *
so the answer is "nobody knows"?

Nobody knows because the information isn't provided in the movie. It's a plot hole, plain and simple. How big that plot hole is depends upon how caught up you are in the main narrative. (i.e. how much you care)

Personally, I think it would have been better to leave Barricade all fuxx0red at that power station place after Bumblebee's fight with him. Even if they had included a final fight scene between him and Prime in the third act, it would have been redundant since there was already the Bonecrusher/Prime fight taking place at the same time.
THE STIG
energon oilchange.

scanformed himself into a cellphone then took off with starscream

carwash.

went back to the dealership to replace parts that were still under warranty only to find out that...

*under clause 47a2 all parts are covered under warranty except for those used not used under normal usage ie: giant robot toy death matches*
Prime-Collector
His agent called.

He left to be in a good movie.
Nomolos
yea, I guess it didn't make since to show him after the fight with bb just to let him dissapear.
Vortex prime
QUOTE
5/ He found love via myspace (it worked for soundwave).


Wasn't that a christian chatroom?
Ultra Bumblemus
he went to pick up the pieces of Bonecrusher That prime stacked up on the side of the road
Haggisjin
If I was Barricade I would've discretely changed my alt mode and left sometime between Bonecrusher getting his freaking head cut off and Devastator losing an arm. Seriously, he got pwned by Bumblebee, what has he supposed to do in a battle that killed off Decepticons 4 times his size?
Teh INTERNETS ^_^
QUOTE (Prime-Collector @ Aug 11 2007, 06:46 PM) *
He fell into a plot hole. Landed in a somewhere in a Uwe Bole movie never to be seen again.

Harsh 07laugh.gif
trench
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Dec 1 2007, 11:16 AM) *
Personally, I think it would have been better to leave Barricade all fuxx0red at that power station place after Bumblebee's fight with him. Even if they had included a final fight scene between him and Prime in the third act, it would have been redundant since there was already the Bonecrusher/Prime fight taking place at the same time.


I agree, really all they had to do was delete the scene of him answering Frenzy's call and then digitially erase him from the from the first part of the highway scene (as well as edit Shia's line identfying him) and "poof" no more plot hole.

As it is, I half wonder if they almost decided that he should have been taken out by Bumblebee, but since they had already shot the footage of him in the freeway scene were forced to keep him around a bit longer...
deceptikhan
QUOTE
Read SW Ep II novel. There's stuff in there that never even made it onto film, like this whole thing involving a recurring dream that Anakin keeps having. I don't remember if it's about his mother or if it was a Force induced dream involving a glimpse into the future or something.


DUDE! Thats IN the movie too bro!

Anyways i bet his mission was to go pick up Frenzy, since their a team & all & he was at Hoover Dam the OPPOSITE dirrection. Then Starscream uses him to recon with Frenzy back & forth from Cybertron to Earth.

Beat that!

And GOD does anybody take this stuff a little more seriously? I dont mean to be totally serious, but making fun of the franchise is un called for.

QUOTE
Quote: Prime Collector
His agent called.

He left to be in a good movie.


like this. I know your respected around here a bit, but i just dont get why someone puts down their own franchise. Happens all the time. anyways

And i dont remember seeing the answer on the "special" dvd that came out. Do any of YOU TFans have an "official" answer??
trench
QUOTE (deceptikhan @ Mar 28 2008, 04:39 PM) *
And i dont remember seeing the answer on the "special" dvd that came out. Do any of YOU TFans have an "official" answer??


Well, as close as I can get to an "official" answer is that he was supposed to have been dispatched by Prime after Bonecrusher bites it.

It's in the script draft used for the novel and comic adaptions. Plus, my buddy that worked on the video game told me he got to see animated storyboards that showed Barricade confronting Prime after the Bonecrusher fight with all kinds of hand-to-hand fighting moves, at which point Prime just pulls out his rifle and blows him away Indiana Jones style.

However, I don't know (nor have I seen any "official" reason) why Barricade's death wasn't in the film. Personally, I lean more towards a not doing the CGI for this scene due to budget/time issues (and hoping that no one notices) - not that there was a decision made to preserve Barricade for use in TF2 (as it seems like if this were the case they could have very easily added a scene of him driving away in the credits sequences).
Hunter Rose
QUOTE (deceptikhan @ Mar 28 2008, 05:39 PM) *
QUOTE
Quote: Prime Collector
His agent called.

He left to be in a good movie.


like this. I know your respected around here a bit, but i just dont get why someone puts down their own franchise. Happens all the time. anyways


07laugh.gif

Don't make too many assumptions there...
Galzamus
Stuck in traffic? I mean, last we saw him was on the freeway... thats also why I joke around saying why Prime was late.
megetron the boufhead
wel my thoughts are that he attackted prime (after he choped bonecrushers head off) in the city and lost thats why he came from an alleyway not the streets .......or he jumped in a lake(well most probably an ocean) 07laugh.gif
G.A.S.H.
I think Reign of Starscream says that Ironhide/Ratchet (can't remember which) delayed him and therefore came back to Starscream... ?
all are dead
if you ask me im not going to take just guesses im going to say what happened to him in the reign if starscream is what happened until we know what really happened. tankor.gif

QUOTE (offroadironhide @ May 29 2008, 04:08 AM) *
if you ask me im not going to take just guesses im going to say what happened to him in the reign if starscream is what happened until we know what really happened. tankor.gif
and in the reign if starscream ironhide slammed him into a piller on the highway.
G.A.S.H.
I was close enough biggrintf.gif
Goktimus Prime
offroadironhide is right - so as the official movie sequel comic, it has thus been retconned. smiletf.gif
I.S.T.
The retcon will be ignored in the movie, you do realize.
Father Time
Any retcon is valid until the next retcon. The next movie may retcon this retcon away, but util then, this is the official story.
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Father Time @ May 29 2008, 07:12 AM) *
Any retcon is valid until the next retcon. The next movie may retcon this retcon away, but util then, this is the official story.

I'll see your retcon, and retcon you a retcon.

But, yeah...It's retconned until the next retcon.
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