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PlumperHumper
Okay - so we've had a lot of variosu threads open up over different theories, ideas, dislikes, likes, and stuff that could have used better explaination. I'm starting this thread to give out some of my theories or elaborations on events and moments in the new TF Movie, as well just my opinion on various things. Feel free to disagree, agree, discuss, and throw out your own opinions. Just please keep the flames to just being on Optimus. Thx.


Protoform Space Travel and Atmosphere Entry:
I think the TF's in their Cometary Modes (those who have them) use a combination of energy shielding (as stated by Epps in the film) and extra armor to cover up more sensitive spots of their bodies during space travel. When the Autobots enter Earth, they have bits and pieces of metal and chunks of armor pop off and burn up. This to me seems like extra padding for boh space travel and atmosphere entry. I assume that the TF's reconfigure themselves to go into space to both fend off the deep cold and allow themselves to block and absorb heat. Then when they reach a new planet they eject this armor to return to full Protoform Mode. This way they can easily adapt to new forms to fit their new surroundings.

Megatron Speaking English and Calling His Name:
To me, even if Megs was frozen, I believe he was semi-conscious enough to access the internet over time and to also listen and adapt to English that was spoken around him for the last 100 years or so. Upon him being released from his icy prison, he immediately called out his name to correct the humans around him from calling him "NBE-1" as well as to strike fear into them before he began his reign of destruction.

Ironhide and Ratchet During the Final Battle:
Some complain about how Ironhide and Ratchet disappeared in the last 10 minutes of the Final Battle. Well, just remember they were just in a short firefight with Starscream and both were shot. Ironhide took a missile to the gut and Ratchet got machine gunned at least twice and then knocked on his ass when Starscream blew by him. Ironhide's entire abdomine was smoking when he told Sam "Get to the building!" You have to take into consideration that they had to repair as well as recover and try to repair Jazz (even if they don't show it - we know it happens).

Transformer Screentime & Product Placement:
We should try to accept all the product placement for this movie, because without all the eBay plugs, GMC car shots, and quick moments of other product flashes, the TF screentime would have been even smaller than it was. The TF's were in the movie a good bit, a lot more than I actually expected. They were in (by my guess) 70% of the movie. That's pretty good considering how much it took to make them and how much money it took to bring them to life. A lot of people want to hate on the product placement or short screentime, but this movie had half the budget of Spider-Man 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 3 and yet IMO had much better solid effects overall. That's incredible really.

Transformer Dialogue and Action:
This is my opinion...just my opinion.
I think the TF's dialogue was great. It was NOT perfect, but it held it's own. I know many that would totally disagree with me, but Megatron felt like Megatron in his dialogue with Prime and in his actions in the Final Battle. All the Autobots (IMO) were handled so well. They each had dialogue that helped show they were all different characters and they each did actions and movements that set each other apart from the others. Prime came across as a seasoned leader, Bumblebee held so much emotion in his face and actions that it was intense, Ironhide and Ratchet seemed to both work well together and yet were like arguing brothers, and Jazz was both flashy and cool in everything he did.
Now does this mean all of it was perfect or amazing - NO. Some lines could have been used to better execution. And as a fanboy (like most here) I sure wanted more, but damn we got the best we could IMO for a first outing that many studios wouldn't even greenlight because they felt it was not worth making.




Fanboy Wanting:
There were only two parts where my inner fanboy was very disappointed. Both were dialogue useage scenes.
First was Prime saying "On this day one shall stand, one shall fall." IMO - The scene should have been shot behind Prime, where you can see Megatron in the background and Prime talking to Megs, as it shows Sam running to hide from the coming battle royale between the two leaders. Basically after the line is said and Megs begins to charge at Prime, the camera goes down to Sam's level and we follow him out to safety away from the battle, then we pick right back up with Megs tossing Prime around.

Secondly, was Megatron's "DECEPTICONS ATTACK!" line. IMHO - It should have show Megs in a wide shot with Blackout and Starscream transforming as they fly downwards behind him as he called out this line. I think that type of scene would have worked so much better (AS A FANBOY) with that scene. Having his soldiers react to his orders and just plain showing him order the Decepticons would have been nice to see, particularly if Megs begins to attack/shoot right after the line was delivered.

Now I understand why neither of these scenes were handled like this - because of the movie being from the humans POV and wanting to show how everything around the TF's was being shown/dealt with. Doesn't mean I wouldn't have liked to see those scenes handled differently.




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Please feel free to discuss my points or make your own.
Lord Madhammer
I think the idea of Megatron saying "I AM MEGATRON!!!" because he was correcting Agent Simmons is pretty roffle. I'm pretty sure that that was an unintentional connection. But it is funny to imagine Megatron standing there frozen as Sam and Agent Simmons are bickering about his name, thinking to himself "OMG N00BS".
PlumperHumper
QUOTE (LadiesMan217 @ Aug 6 2007, 04:57 PM) *
I think the idea of Megatron saying "I AM MEGATRON!!!" because he was correcting Agent Simmons is pretty roffle. I'm pretty sure that that was an unintentional connection. But it is funny to imagine Megatron standing there frozen as Sam and Agent Simmons are bickering about his name, thinking to himself "OMG N00BS".

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