If you were Starscream, or Optimus, or Shockwave for that matter, wouldn't you have been saying for the last few thousand years, where's Megatron? He was suppose to have been burried in ice for a few thousand years?! Who's leading the Decepticons? After he got going again he didn't ask how long have I been burried in ice? What's happened during the War in my absence? Didn't seem to fit all that. Maybe I missed something. Help anyone?!

Poor writing.

Well, his team is deathly afraid of him, so they're more worried he'll come back than wondering where he's been. Except for Blackout, he's a Soundwave-class suckup.
Autobots are just delighted he's not around. Either way, he wasn't really missed.

Tranformers are notorious for saying "well, thats the end of him", and not waiting around to verify things.



also - lazy writing. "nah, they'll be too impressed with all our CGI to stop and think about it."

Starscream was the de facto leader while Megs was gone.

Most of the Decepticons wanted Megs back, this was indicated in the games and novels. However, they just didn't know where he was. Megatron, when he woke up, didn't care about what had happened while he was gone. He wanted the Allspark, and he could tell it was near.

Makes sense to me.

I think some of the fiction indicates that he was aware, though minimally, what the humans were doing to him. This is stated in the movie adaptation. In the prequel novel, Blackout repeatedly tries to show up Starscream for the liar that he is, even when Starscream claims that the humans have no known info about Megatron's whereabouts (which is a complete lie since the ship they're in was reverse engineered from Megs and info on both him and the Cube was in their computer which Starscream both accessed via the computer and through talking to them).

I tend to want to believe that in this adaptation of the franchise that the Decepticon empire is bigger than one man. It didn't matter that Megatron went missing as the war would continue without him. Besides, it seems that when he left, things were in favour of the Decepticons so it would take, like a whole bunch of dumbassedness, for them to screw it up at that point. Therefore, no need for a search party.



I'd agree that he was somewhat aware of his surroundings while in cryostasis. It would seem he crashed into the Earth having never made contact with humans in 40 BC whatever, but awoke rather disgusted with mankind in general a few thousand years later.

"It's not important?"

Well since he's like suppose to be this super advance robot, so i'm sure he has some sort of a built in clock somewhere inside of him.

Megatron was well aware of what the humans where doing to/with him. When the ice broke he screamed 'I'm Megatron!', the humans called him a different name (Which I can't remember, NBE-1 or something...) and that pissed him off. At least, that's how I saw it. When I come in to a room of people I dont know I usually don't yell out 'I'M GASKET' and wreck stuff.

I saw it the same way. He must have had some level of consciousness and known what was happening to him. I think that line showed it. It could also explain how he learned to speak English.

Transformers have no since of time. They've been fighting for like a million years straight. A thousand years to them is just last Last month.

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...Wasn't Cybertron already a ruined wreck of deadness and death (Not my best moment of description) when Megatron disappeared

I think "Oh Powerglide. We've no home" Was a bigger concern for most involved.

Did I mention half assed writing?

Exactly Gasket - that's how I always saw it. I have faith Megatron could access the internet, even immobile by the freezing process that S7 held him in and he learnt English. Then once he was free, he was like - "STFU YOU Protectobots! I AM MEGATRON!!"

I didn't read the prequel comics or the adaptation and I totally saw that in the movie.


What? I never said I hated all of it.

He was way enjoying his ice bath without worries and got pissed when they woke him up.

"Should we keep writing the TF movie this afternoon? I think the overall back story needs some work... Or should we go get $200 of Taco Bell on movie budget?"

"Mmmm, Chalupas..."

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Starscream didn't want him found..............

.. or maybe Megs said.. "Hey.. I'm going away for awhile to find this allspark thing.. I won't be back till I find it.. Shockwave, you're on guard duty.. water the plants, mow my yard and have my coffee ready when I return" .... yeah that last part I just decided to throw in there..

That does makes sense with regards to what happened in the film, thanks chaps.

I'm still not sure I like the Megatron frozen in ice for K+ years story line itself though. I'd have preffered Megs to be in it from the start and have had an earlier confrontation with Prime in a set the scene kinda way.

A great many times.

No, the way they did it was perfect. Save the big bad ass for the end of the film, and have him come in and start beating the snot out of everyone in his grasp (Jazz and Prime) and then have the insignificant human do the final act that does him in at the end. Perfect. Having him in there earlier wouldn't have given me the sense of power and hatred towards humans that he did when he woke up.

The movie was great in this aspect, and secondly, we all know he's not going to stay dead. He's going to come back in the sequel, probably towards the end again, but this time it'll be to set up the threequel instead of waking up in time for the big battle royale. However, he comes back as either Megatron or Galvatron is another matter.



And no one cares.

You make some really good points Masterminicon. But some of what you've described sounds similar to several other action films and trilogies. I wouldn't want them to use the same formulae. I'd like them to come up with something different for Transformers. I find Megatron comeing back, maybe as Galvatron, at the END of the sequel to set up the third movie a little predicable. Mind you I can't think of anything else, but then again I'm not a movie writer!

Then how about they follow the Gandalf format and have him come in early in the film. I don't know how they'll plan it. They still have potential plans for the Dinobots, the Constructicons and Soundwave, so they have to work them in as well.

Perfect, treats the audience with intelligence and not treat em like idiots needing every thing explained to them like unattentive brats!

I was thinking more along the lines of "oh hey, they probably went through all that stuff already back when he first went missing" and stuff.

I mean, it's not like he just went missing all of a sudden - he was gone for a while.



And also Megatron was fully aware of what was going on around him while he was frozen.

I guess freezing him immobilized him but did not screw his computer up and about learning Earth language through the world wide web there's always wireless connection.

uh yeah,


maybe read the prequel material first if the dots don't exactly connect.

It worked This question never previously occurred to me.

GTFO of my internets, troll.

It never occurred to you because it wasn't something that had to be explained.
"Who was leading the Decepticons while he was gone?" Starscream was.
"Why didn't they ask where he was?" He just launched himself into space in the middle of a battle to go after the All Spark, which Prime jettisoned from Cybertron. So to both sides he more or less left in the middle of a war and never came back. To the Autobots they were just happy he was gone, and the Decepticons, still at war, needed a new leader fast, so their faction wouldn't splinter, with SS eventually winning control. Also, for both sides the war was still going on, and they needed to find the All Spark. The Autobots didn't want Megs found, and SS wanted Megs lost forever so no one could challenge him for control; he was in a position to limit the 'Cons' search to just the All Spark, doing everything he could to steer them away from their lost leader. Unfortunately for SS the two ended in the same place.

It had nothing to do with poor writing, or the movie relying to much on CGI. It had everything to do with not treating the audience like idiots. It sucks whenever a magic narrator shows up to explain EVERYTHING about the back story. TF did it right. They focused on the primary conflict, and provided just enough info for the audience to piece together the back story on their own. Even without reading any of the prequel material most of the above stuff could have been figured out just by paying attention to the movie and using common sense.

And yes, it makes perfect sense to assume Megs knew what was going on while he was frozen. I'm not sure he could have accessed the web, but he was being studied by humans (Americans to be exact) for 100+ years. It's common sense to assume he leaned English, and developed a hatred for humans, over that time period.

plus, this was already a long movie, how much more "story" do you think should be in it? I mean seriously, I think some of you guys want an entire season worth of canon thrown into a single 2.5 hour movie.

Well the decepticons are such a snuggly bunch I'll bet they cried and sat in a mourning circle when he didn't show back up after a few months.


uh no...


seeing as evil dudes are supposed to be cut throat power hungry villains I'm guessing that Megatron was only the leader because he was the biggest baddest guy around and when he wasn't around the next biggest baddest guy around just stepped in and stomped the crap out of anyone who had anything to say about it.

I think the sequence that shows Megs Killed the entire Planet Cybertron set to mood for who he is.

NO.


You can bet there will always be questions like this with just about any kind of movie, especially sci-fi/action flicks.

There may what people perceive as holes here and there, don't think that the makers don't know that. Just because every question isn't answered doesn't mean there couldn't be an answer. That's part of the fun of movies like this because it leaves some things up to the imagination. Fill those holes with whatever explanations you see fit and have fun with it.

It also makes for some good discussions and bouncing different ideas off the walls as well. Nothing wrong with that!

really though that does leave a big question.... maybe it was starscream. cause why would he go back to cybertron? they would question why he didn't help megatron and probobly kill starscream. but if he was already their leader than he takes control. ha i think i cracked the case. or i'm off by a longshot...

oh well 1

If Megatron had access to the internet did he have to suffer dial up?

I always assumed no one knew exactly where the Allspark went except Megatron. The universe being a very big place, no one guessed its exact coordinates. I havent read the prequel novel but I imagine once the humans started tinkering with the Allspark the Transformers knew where to go. Once again the universe being a very big place, it could take a while to get there.

wait a minute forget my last post.
at the begining optimus said "we scattered across the universe in search of the allspark" So megatron and all his decipticons were off looking for it and didn't even realize megatron was gone because they were too far away.
same with the other autobo

According to the prequels, no. The AllSPark was launched in space by the Autobots, while the Decepticons attacked the Autobot stronghold. Megatron knew the trajectory, and followed it. Autobots and Decepticons were looking up into the sky following Megatron as he went into outer space, and then looked at eachother, not knowing what to do next. Eventually, it was understood that Cybertron was falling apart, and that it needed the AllSpark back. What followed was a diaspora, an exodus of Transformers in search of both Megatron and the AllSpark, knowing that where one would be, the other would not be far away.

BTW I think Optimus jettisoning the Allspark into space was the dumbest idea ever. Thankfully the prequel comics =/= the movie.