I had a thought about this literally about 15 minutes ago. My brother's at his computer, which is next to mine, and he starts playing with his R2-D2 and my movie Ironhide was at my computer, so I suggested how about a robot battle royale, R2 vs. Ironhide. He didn't like the idea, saying Ironhide would vanquish R2. Then he said the only advantage R2 had was that he can fly.

That got me thinking, who would win if the two of them squared off in a duel.

I think it'd be Ironhide. Despite the fact that he's grounded, R2 has minimal defenses against an onslaught of missiles and lasers with only his tools that could potentially be used for defense and his jump jets which aren't good for long flying times, but more for evasive jumps.

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R2 is so small and flies so frickin slow that by the time he's 2 ft off the ground Ironhide would have stomped on him before he even realizes they are dueling. It's like a Body Builder fighting an 8 month old with wings and a fork as a weapon.

Ironhide "Ah now?! What in blazes...!? Leaking lubricants. I squished one of the humans' darn trash cans"

Yeah really. Flying trashcan versus alien robot gun-nut.

I know that R2 would lose, that's my two cents

Well, my brother's determined to think that R2 would beat Ironhide cause size doesn't determine everything. And while that's true, that just ain't gonna happen. You put it very aptly TMan. It'd be like Ironhide stepping on a tash can that flies before they realized they were dueling.

R2 isn't just small, he's as manuverable has and old man in a Hoveround powered by C Batteries and his weapons are all just tools. Even if he some how magnet locked onto Ironhides body, would would he do next? I've never seen any screws holding the Movie TFs bodies together. Besides, Ironhide is so big and fast. My mind was blown seeing him on the battle field.

This calls for a stop-motion match beween your Ironhide and your brothers R2, Masterminicon.

Iron hide would see R2 and kneel down and be all...

"How'ya doin' little guy?"


and vicious little Artoo would zap his eys out and reprogram him to think he was an effeminate maintenence droid.

So essentially turning Ironhide into a very large version of 3PO, huh?



I'll get on that this weekend when I have time.

That wouldn't happen. Ironhide pulled his guns on a crippled toca bell dog

...The forums really need more topics like this. ^^

I don't know... Did anyone ever read the Toyfare version of Episode III? Artoo shot a Super Battle Droid in the kneecaps, squirted oil on him, and then used his jetpack to light the droid on fire. And then he ripped out his heart.

So yeah. I'd say it's pretty good matchup.

PLEASE. That woud be awesome.

I'll be siding with Ironhide on this one.

That speaks volumes about his intellect. R2 would own him.

Yes. I'll definitely do that. I'll start scripting on Friday. Get financial approval from my studio on Saturday morning. Find a director during the day and gathering the cast as well. Shooting on Saturday night. Wrap up filming on Sunday morning. Editing on Sunday, and then, get ready for the release on Monday or Tuesday barring any unseen problems.



In all seriousness. I'll work on it between my work schedule and what I have planned for the weekend which isn't much, but most of which doesn't require me leaving the house.

besides that bit of comic relief, he didn't seem too dim to me.

When was this non-dimness revealed? When he was contemplating killing Sam's parents? or when he was yelling "Megatron!"?

He's first of all, just a trigger happy gun nut. Secondly, it wasn't him that yelled "Megatron!". It was Ratchet. Third of all, he provides some interesting points. Why SHOULD the Autobots protect us. We are a relatively primative and violent race. That's some insight to his opinion of humans and I'm sure organics, making him sound more like a Decepticon than Autobot, until Prime explains why they are protecting them. This doesn't make him seem "dim" to me. I makes him seem smarter than you give him credit for.

...in a 50-foot STEEL CAGE-AGE-age-age!!!

What if R2 projects an image of Arcee begging for help, just long enough to mesmerize Ironhide? What if Ironhide does a mid-air barrel-roll over R2's head, in his blind spot? Place your bets!

What if Ironhide just barrel rolls on R2? Who needs a blind spot.

What if Ironhide just kicks R2D2? R2's pretty much a ready made projectile.

I think thats a big stretch for the few lines he had. R2 had no lines and has more character.

As for the why should...
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That's why.

Ironhide.

What if R2 saw Ironhide and exploded with fright?

What if Ironhide exploded with anger when he saw R2 humpin' his mom?

Ironhide would use him as a deodorant stick. OOPS! I totally forgot that Artoo's three feet talk, and Ironhide's a triggerhappy mothaPowerglidea.

Ironhide has a mom?!?
I just assumed he was slapped together to shoot people and small dogs.

C3-P0 is Ironhides mom.

So that's why Ironhide wants to shoot everything...it all makes sense.

Makes Darth Vader his grandpappy. Explains the black shiny armor.

This did not go in the direction I had anticipated.

R2 loses. End of Thread.

My Cause has DOUBLED in Size.

R2 will reign victorious!

Drop in the ocean.

Yes... The OCEAN of Leakin' Lubericant after R2 Cracks open Ironhide like a can of cheap beer!

YES BUT WHAT IF R2 MASS SHIFTS THEN IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

I dont think a 30 foot tall aluminum can is any more dangerous than a 3 foot tall one.

It does if he mass shifts in Ironhide's tailpipe...

I don't know about Artoo, but C-3PO would annoy Ironhide to death.

Since Ironhide is made of sterner stuff wouldnt R2 just get squished himself and then be squeezed out of Ironhide's tailpipe like a big long piece of robodung?

Not if Axel Foley has anything to say about it.

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Lucas would pull some crap out of his ass, say R2 is the robotic reincarnation of the best Jedi Eva (Jesas his name was. To avoid lawsuits) and can wield six sabres at once (Grievous had four. Whats better than four? SIX)

Lightsabers coming from each orifice. And pore. And tooth.

Dear god, can't we just all realize that they're from two different storylines and they're both FICTIONAL CHARACTERS?

Artoo has never shown that he can kill anything larger than a Super Battle Droid, which have little sentience. Irnohide and he can both think for themselves, but if they were both told, flat out, that one another were enemies, I'm quite sure Ironhide would beat the living Blot out of Artoo, which is pretty much Kenny Baker.

There are TOO MANY FACTORS to think about... what if Ironhide didn't know and Artoo did? Vice Versa? What if it was Artoo from the original trilogy, who was extremely clever but less belligerent and possessed less firepower and such? What if George Lucas was paid enough money(And there's never enough, mind you) to have Artoo throw the fight?

Therefore, this topic should be closed and NEVER touched upon again. Unless both owners of the characters allowed a movie to be made of it, I doubt we'd never know. And even if there was, we probably still wouldn't know, because they would want a tie, so neither looked bad.

END.

Movie Ironhide has never killed ANYTHING. Bay saw to that.

Let me rephrase... destroy anything. Droids are, to an extent, living beings, but not really.

Does R2D2 even do anything besides make beeping noises anyway?
Ironhide would tear the little bot to scrap for another weapon.

I think Masterminicon owes us a stop motion video.

I do think, however, that R2 has a chance through ambush. If Ironhide takes a nap or a dump and R2 would attack him from the back by launching himself in to Ironhides ass, there is an off-chance R2 aims directly in the hole and explodes to win. It's for the cause, so his death will be glorious.

The stop motion video couldn't get done this weekend. We had an unexpected problem in the family and that required a trip to the hospital and me holding down the house and keeping an eye on my sisters.

I'll try and get it done this week when I'm at home.

Holy hell, you've actually been busy with it! I was affraid it wouldn't get done, so I drew a comic in my lunchbreak illustrating it... Now all I need to do is find two minutes to upload and scan the POS.

Yeah. I've done some stop motion work before in high school. It's not that hard. 4 frames of footage for a few moments, and then just keep adding frames of different poses since most standard footage is a 30 fps so when you have 7 motions, you have 28 frames of footage, so you have about one second. It's rather exhuasting and time consuming work. I should have it done by the end of the week hopefully, since I have work that is. I'm not going to bother with Ironhide transforming since that'd be hard to do on camera since he's not entirely stable in mid transformation (I'm sure I could work it, but still), so he's just going to walk on screen, point his gun at R2, and then the fight commences.

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The way I see this thing going.

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