a transformers strength is something that troubles me. for example could bumblebee pick up starscream and throw him a certain distance? i mean bumblebee is small compared to starscream so he couldnt possibly pick him up could he? however just because a transformers small doesent make it weak so im very confused to wether they can or cant pick each other up!

Depends on their spark. Brawn is one of the strongest single TFs there is, yet is a Minibot, one of the smallest G1 Transformers. I doubt any difference in powerlevel will be based on size in the Movie Universe.

If you want to know how strong each character is, just read their tech specs. Bumblebee's strength is rated as a 6 on a scale of 1-10. Prime's, obviously, is a 10, as is Megatron's. and Starscream's is an 8. I hope that helps.

yes it does thanks but what i want to know is could any autobot pick up a decepticon and throw them very far?

excerpts from the Kraft Lunchables Transformers website. the rest of the their descriptions on the site are more personality and tactics. i just pulled the ones regarding "strength".



prime's the only one with real world numbers... megs "almost" as powerful? guess prime was holding back... and I laughed at the bumblebee's: "so skillfull that hes never been captured". hehe. they had entries for jazz and frenzy, but jazz was pretty much just really fast, and frenzy, well, hes a shrimp hacker.

Well, if we assume that the strength scores are done evenly... with Prime's score of 10 equaling 4,000.000 pounds, that would mean a score of 1 would be 400,000 right? so Bumblebee's score of 8 would be 3,200,000. ... Now if we have any weight figures on any of the characters we may be able to fully answer your question....

I'm a total nerd for actually doing the math on this?

no way... the only thing we'd need now is the weight of each bot... there might be some figures on the weight of the concept camaro... perhaps the F22 Raptor as well. Assuming the TFs aren't adding any weight to these vehicles, we could really answer the question!

As far as TF strength goes - in G1 it varied a lot depending on what continuity you followed (and even within the cartoon itself it varied).

Brawn - One of the physcially strongest Autobots ever. Brawn tossed Optimus Prime and Prime's trailer like a lawn-dart once. Brawn also tackled Seekers like they were paperweights. Brawn was shown to be able to pick up the Seekers with one hand and toss them around like rag dolls.

Huffer - Also one of the smallest and strongest Autobots. Can pick up a wooly mammoth-sized object easily. In the comics, Huffer was the 3rd strongest Autobot of the original 18 (just behind Optimus and Brawn) and he was able to pick up and smash a massive satellite relay station.

Dinobots - Snarl tossed Bluestreak, Sideswipe, and Ironhide around like they weighed nothing. In dino modes the Dinobots have trampled, picked up, crushed, and thrown all the Decepticons around pretty much like they were toys. But Dinobots were ridiculously strong anyways.


Various TF's have been given various weights they can lift, most are insane really.

Consider this, on Robot Wars they have several 3 foot long by 2 foot high bots that can flip an 2-3 tonne SUV.

No you're not.

But, your assumptions are flawed. You assume a linear approach in the scoring, in which the steps between each full mark are constant. The scoring could be quadratic, or in powers of ten, or something like that. In other words, you can't really tell.

Using no math at all, but instead employing my powers of guesstimation, I would say that weight of the intended target, plus leverage, would be the deciding factor. A TF with a power rating of 5, basically half of Primes strength, should easily be able to lift the static weight af another TF even twice his size. But then you gotta know if the target is unaware or braced, how fast he is, how skilled, slippery, squirmy.... In DW's Micromaster storyline one of the little buggers, Skyhopper or Skystalker, sucessfully flipped Shockwave, who obviously never expected anyone to grab his gunbarrel. If he had any idea anyone would be crazy enough to try that, he'd have punted them throught he wall first. So, element of suprise factors in also. Almost any autobot could throw Megatron IF they were fast enough, and caught him unaware. In fact, it's the little guys that get ya, because you don't see 'em coming. Of course, I don't think even Prime, or Megs, could throw a Gestalt. Not saying he couldn't maybe lift that much weight in a static environment, but getting the proper grip, leverage, even what you are standing on, all play into it.
Best answer: It depends. And Bumblebee could easily lift and throw Starscream...if Starscream let him.

So what you're saying is we need a couple of 10 sided dice and some stat sheets here?


Wow...I really am a nerd... ^_^

Despite the fact that some numbers just don't add up and it is completely obvious that the original Transformers from 1984 were made the strongest overall due to them being the first one...here is the basics of TF Strength in G1 from the Tech Specs and Comics...

AUTOBOTS:

1.) - Optimus Prime has a Strength of 10 and could lift a maximum of 2,000 tons.
2.) - Grimlock has a Strength of 10 and in the comics his physical strength is considered to be equal to Optimus Prime's, however he has also been stated to actually be slightly stronger than even Optimus.
3.) - Brawn has a Strength of 9 and could lift 95 tons without any trouble (maximum not known, but Brawn was the 2nd Strongest Autobot of the original 18) and can knock over a two or three-story building with one punch.
4.) - Huffer has a Strength of 7 and could lift 20 tons with one hand. However this number is contradictory, considering Huffer in the comics was the 3rd Strongest Autobot of the original 18 Autobots and other "weaker" Autobots could lift this much.
5.) - Hoist has a Strength of 8 and in the comics he can haul/pull up to 200 tons maximum in truck mode and his strength in robot mode was relative to his truck form but not exactly the same.
6.) - Omega Supreme has a Strength of 10 and his claw arm could lift 150 tons fairly well. His full strength was never stated, but he could shatter mountains with his bare strength.
7.) - Defensor has a Strength of 10 and could lift 300 tons maximum.
8.) - Metroplex has an obvious Strength of 10 and could lift 70,000 tons, making him the strongest Autobot ever made (but his sheer size makes this obvious).

DECEPTICONS:

1.) - Megatron has a Strength of 10 and in the comics can match Optimus Prime exactly in physical strength (lifting 2,000 tons maximum).
2.) - Long Haul has a Strength of 9 and could carry around 90 tons in truck mode. His robot mode's strength was considered to be equal to his truck form.
3.) - Bruticus has a Strength of 10 and in the comics could lift around 250 tons fairly well.
4.) - Predaking has a Strength of 10 and in the comics he can lift 500 tons without straining a circuit and is considered stronger than Optimus Prime or Megatron. So he was able to lift more than 2,000 tons (however the exact number is not known).

Yeah, I always thought that old 1 thru 10 power rating system to mean IN THE SAME CLASS. You know, a gestalt being a different class of being, or a cityformer being a separate class. In other words, is Grimlock (rated 10) as physically strong as Predaking (rated 10), or Trypticon (also 10), or Fortess Maximus (also 10)? Of course not. Both the gestalt Piranacon and citiformer Scorponok are only rated 8, but would still be stronger than Grimlock.
So Grimmy would be equal to Megs or Shockwave who are in his class, but not Omega Supreme, who is a different class of being.
So how about Optimus Prime (10) and Powermaster Optimus (10)? PM Prime is stronger than he used to be, because he has gone up in class. With his base mode/battle suit he is closer to gestalt class. Thats why he could stomp the snot out of Piranacon, but had trouble with Overlord (10, but megabase with dual powermasters).
Let me know if I can confuse things further!

See I used to think this too, and I still do.

But, if you'll notice based on the old Tech Specs and Comics, G1 Original Optimus Prime is much stronger than Bruticus or Defensor or even Omega Supreme - LOL.

The short and simple answer is; They're as strong as you want them to be.

Well Megatron did beat the crap out of Predaking in the comic...

Yes, but Megatron didn't physically fight Predaking (other than throwing a tree), he beat him with his fusion cannon - Megs Cannon = Greater than Predaking's Armor.

Didn't Bumblebee lift that Furby truck by himself or did Rachet help him? I cant remember.

All I know is that a very satisfying amount of Furbys died there. Bumblebee is a hero.

It was him and Ironhide that lifted the truck, although, he lifted Barricade when he flipped him over and smacked him into the building in the first TF vs. TF fight in the movie. Bumblebee seemed stronger in the movie than his G1 self. So I'm sure since Ironhide was helping him, he wasn't using his full strength than had he been lifting it alone. I can relate when we take animals that have been euthanized out to the freezer awaiting pick up, the big ones namely. I can lift a decent amount of weight on my own. But when I have someone helping me, I'm not going to have to use my full strength since I'm not carrying the entire weight alone. The same can be said in this situation when asking about Ironhide and BB lifting the Furby truck in relation to how strong the TFs are.

But again, like someone else said, they're going to be as strong as you want them to be.

Movie Bumblebee has a Tech Spec Strength of 6, G1 Bumblebee has a Strength of 1 or 2 (depending on which one you look at).
So Movie Bumblebee is as strong as say - Hot Rod or Bluestreak. Instead of being one of the weakest Autobots all around.

In a G1 Episode, Optimus Prime lifted an oil tanker above his head... That's pretty ridiculously strong.