I was browsing Wikipedia, and came across this little info on the section of Movie Jazz on their Jazz page.

Well, again. Considering it's Wikipedia, I suggest taking it with a grain of salt, but it might hint at things to come.



This sounds like a mix of the G1-deco Target exclusive bio and what the movie writers have planned for the Allspark fragment. Which in a way makes sense since that fragment still probably has some power.

Thoughts: Cool if it happens, since Jazz deserves to see some character development since I think he was really cool. If it doesn't, it's not the worst thing in the world and will be perfectly content to keep him alive in my mind with my movie figures.

although i would like to see it i think that once their sparks have extinguished they should be dead.

cool if they brought him back and he went insane

I hate it when I'm wrong. Ah well, Jazz does deserve more screentime.

The Allspark is all powerful my bother! Amen!!

this would be cool, who's to say the all spark does'nt rebuild itself!

i think there is little doubt that megatron will be back for the next movie, so if he can come back why not Jazz

That would be a great concept for the next movie - the allspark regenerates itself, as discovered when new arrival Wheeljack uses the fragment to bring Jazz back to life. The Decepticons cotton on to this and attempt to steal it, nominally to resurrect Megatron (Blackout and Soundwave's idea), but more likely because Starscream wants the power to overthrow new leader Shockwave.

The Autobots realise that the cube has become corrupted beyond saving when their reinforcements the Dinobots come out of Ratchet and Wheeljack's Tranformers-O-Matic as slavering idiots (so no real change, then...) and set off on an epic quest through the galaxy to repair/destroy the cube (destroying it is problematic as it regenerates, hence 'epic quest') and find some more characters along the way, namely Wreck-gar (still with facial hair - voiced by either Eric Idle or Bill Nighy) and the Junkions (voiced by as many ragged rock stars as they can lay their hands on...).

Attempting to destroy it by casting it into a gravity well/black hole/supernova/whatever creates a rift in space and time that releases Unicron, the Chaos Bringer and Devourer of Worlds from the prison Primus placed him in aeons ago: cue movie number three.

Besides idle speculation, they should definitely bring Jazz back.

the script hasn't even been written yet.

not to burst anyone's bubbles

yes, and where is said interview? i'd think that if this actually existed that we'd have heard about it by now, remember any douche can edit a wiki article

I know. I said to take this info with a grain of salt. I just thought I'd share the info. For all we know, it could be true, or it could be some moron's wishful thinking.

Soundblaster010. A big no to slavering idiotic Dinobots. If the Dinobots are to be in the sequel, then they have to be more like their comic versions and smart and kick-ass fighters that loathe Prime and Grimlock is the only one with stunted speech (due to some weird quirk in his speech programming). And no Unicron. We don't need them to do Unicron in the way they did Galactus in F4: Rise of the Silver Surfer.

I'm just thinking that the Allspark shard will play some important role in the sequel and will somehow involve Megatron and/or Jazz being revived.

And Captain Modesty, we don't see Jazz's spark extinguished. All we see are sparks as he's ripped in half.

I don't know about you, but I think being ripped in half would kill you just as dead as having your heart torn out.

On a side note, did anyone else notice all the dead transformers hanging from pikes and spikes and girders on the cybertron flash back the prime shows the kids? Holy Blot.

Please Primus no Wreck-Gar/Junkions, that was painful enough in the Animated Movie. "Dare to be Stupid" was a fitting song to play in those scenes.

Dude yeah!
I loved that!
What I really loved was when Megs throws the spear into the Autobot and then he roars and looks around like he wants to eat someone.

Wish jazz come back anything is possible when it a movie cept when it not then it impossible for a movie

I think Jazz should just show up one scene and Sam should be like.

"I thought he was dead."

"Dead? We're F-ing robots kid."

"Yeah, dead means we're gonna miss poker night for a few weeks."

"Oh"

Cut to:

Megatron limping around the ocean floor swearing.

eh, that came off kind of snide, it wasn't directed at you i was just saying in general for everybody to not get their hopes up.

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Jazz needs to come back for sure...Too funny to die like he did, he can come back as a McLaren F1 or something, that could work.

I'm guessing that Jazz is gone.

My impression is that the sequel will also likely only feature a small team of Autobots, so at most I only expect to see 2-3 new characters in the next film, and I don't think they'll lose the opportunity to feature a new guy by bringing Jazz back.

these are some good points-- (my only transformers knowledge is from this movie), so what DOES define when a robot is "dead"??? seems like being ripped in two could be a minor thing for a robot

The only way to truly kill a TF is by destroying their Spark. Heavily Damaging them can lead to their Spark dying. Heavy Trauma can totally kill a TF, since the Spark is sensitive to internal organ damage and shut down. Going to Stasis Lock (like a super-form of sleeping) can help them to last longer while damaged.

Well the "spark" thing they mentioned (Optimus opened his chest at one point and showed his "spark chamber") is essentially a Transformers soul/lifeforce, if it's destroyed the Transformer dies.

I noticed, particularly with Brawlastator and Blackout, that when a movie TF took a hit directly into its chest there appeared to be a sort of fluorescent energy that spilled out, which perhaps was supposed to represent death via rupture of the spark chamber.

Basically, Ratchet, the medic, saying "We couldn't save him" = dead jazz. He ain't coming back.

as much as i like Jazz as a character, i say leave him dead and bring in someone else to fill his void like Blaster. Besides, we all know its almost a given that Soundwave will be in the sequel, might as well have his boombox counterpart.

Actually, I have read the interview in question. It does exist, though trying to find it again is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Hm. So what should Soundwave and Blaster's alt modes be then?
Because honestly, they can't be tape decks. Between the lack of mass-shifting and the fact we had a boombox already, it's not really an option.

I kinda think Soundwave could be an AWAC plane, but that would make him tower over the other transformers. Possibly some kind of communications vehicle, like his War Within incarnation?

I'm not trying to imply you meant it this way, but what "void" is it that Blaster could fill?

Token ostensibly black Autobot?

Jazz's role was second in command. Wouldn't he be better replaced with Grimlock or Prowl?







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The Rude Awakening of Optimus Prime evidences that Prime considers Blaster his second-in-command.

At least over Hot Rod or Wheelie.

*votes Prowl*

Wel, it has already been stated in interviews and discussions that the "no mass shifting" rule only applied to the first movie because it was too much to put in to a single movei in the limited amount of time without the risk of destroying suspension of diselief. That is why Soundwave wasn't used in the first movie. They wanted to do him right, and couldn't in the first movie.

Though I love that. I'm not quite sure I'm ready to cite it as cannon. Besides I thought Prime just wanted to hang with Blaster because he was one of his boyz back in the day, as opposed to the G1.5 rejects around him.

I vote Prowl and Grimlock, they should do the Spock & Bones "I hate you" bit all the time.

WELL IT'S PART OF MY PERSONAL CANON, DAMMIT.

Awww, CHRIST!!!

The only thing that could have made that lackluster movie dumber would have been MAGIC SHRINKY. The Cube compression was lame enough.

And by "do soundwave right" the meant giving him a real character and not the comedy bit that Frenzy was. It had nothing to do with magic shinky. Now that they've done a boombox TF that DIDN'T magic shrinky, what the hell will Soundwave shrink into? A toy surveillance van? WTF? Frenzy answered this. It's over.

come on now, we all know that Jazz was the token black guy who gets killed. and knowing hollywood, yeah blaster would fill that void perfectly. i could see it now, he sacrifices himself to kill sondwave and save the rest of the autobots!

though it was said in the movie and everyone likes to point it out, how much "second commanding" did Jazz actually do? in my opinion, Ironhide had more of a leadership presence than Jazz, trigger happy and all. just cause he was "second in command" does not escape the fact that he was just a stereotype and a throwaway knee-grow character. i just won't be surprised if Blaster or another character who may have "black" characteristics is thrown in there to make up for the absence of Jazz.

That kind of "logic" (shudder)... is actually spot on for this movie. Which is why its SO LAME!!!

I'm sorry I couldn't help it.

Well, I am not going to argue the issue of whether it's a good idea or not. Just because Frenzy was a boombox doesn't mean Soundwave can't be a larger one as well. I'm just stating the reasons why he wasn't in the first movie, and both Hasbro and Don Murphy have stated when he does make his appearance, it would be as a stereosystem with Mass conversion. However, this discussion is about Jazz, not Soundwave, so let's end it at that please.

Ladies and gentlemen, we've stepped in a turd again.

From what Bay has said, I don't think Don Murphy will be able to get a cup of coffee on the set of the sequel. Much less dictate Soundwave's alt mode or any magic shrinky.

Cool. So this isn't just something someone wanted to put on there. Maybe Jazz will come back.

Possibly cause of said theories that he's not truly dead, but just really damaged. Maybe the Autobots have now made the Hoover Dam their hideout since it's no longer home to Sector Seven. And it's big enough to hold them since it was built to hold Megatron and built around the Cube. So maybe Jazz in in some type of rigged up medical machine (for in the time from the movie's ending to the sequel, the Autobots could have brought down gear from the Ark from wherever they parked it in space (yes, the Ark does exist in the movie -verse, as proven by the novel which is the prequel novel to the film, and so does the Nemesis for that matter). Brought gear includes medical stuff, weapon supplies, and other essentials that Earth can't provide.

i wouldn't put too much stake in the prequel novel

as for the article, i'm sure they havn't even started writing the script yet so it could just be writers talking. not to mention that ratchet and prime said he was dead.

I think that is what will hold water in the end.

Tazzbot. It'd be cheap if Jazz just popped up and just 'was there' again.

well, they did do it in g1... >_>

*hides*

my two cents:

it'll fill the desirable 'patent' and also fill something of the void/newbot on the block bit. but what if we were introduced to Jazz's twin brother Meister?

yeah. cheap plot I know, but hey someone else had to say it.



still. my hopes for the next film still lay with the TWINS: SUNSTREAKER AND SIDESWIPE! Make them Ferarri's like in the New Generation comics or make them Lamborgini's again! Those cars are still hotter than hell!

away from the subject, but talking of coming back... we saw how easily Bumblebee changed from old to new Camero... maybe Prime could do the same from a long-nosed truck to the G1 style rig?

I just don't understand why people are so ghey for Soundwave anyways...he was Megatron's mindless drone basically.

But Jazz...uh ya, it would be pretty horrible of "oops, I was wrong, he's fixable..................my bad......" type thing happens. Leave him dead and bring in a new character please. He did his thing in the first movie...took on Megatron. He had a heroic death.

YES.

New characters are alwas nice and it sells toys.

I think they're going to leave Jazz dead, despite all the fandom's love for him (yes, including me). Instead, we'll probably get two new Autobots and a whole slew of new Decepticons. Then they'll probably kill someone from the first movie and/or relegate them to a background role to make room for newer bots in the third one.

More likely they'll be GM's and since Bumblebee already has Sunstreaker's paintjob I don't expect to ever see him in the movie-verse. I'm guessing we'll either get Sideswipe or Tracks (the latter of which, character-wise, is basically indistinguishable from 'Streaker anyway) as a Corvette.



I wouldn't either, I noted a number of inconsistencies likely due to the fact that Foster had an earlier draft of the script with which to work.

Jazz needs to stay dead. Otherwise, death in the TF universe becomes meaningless. Same for Devastator, Blackout, and Bonecrusher. Megatron, on the other hand, could have a legitimate reason for not staying dead: he's full of freakin' Allspark energy!