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StarSkweek
So I went to my wal mart friday night (11/03) and they had a bunch of the 20th ann. TFTM DVDs on the shelves in the toy section. Of course I snatched one up. I then learned that it wasnt officially being released until 11/07. Did anyone else luck out and get a copy early?
shajaki
you got one already? details man! did they edit the swearing? did they do anything to bastardize it?
Methos00
Any extra or deleted scenes?
Kurosaki Ichigo
Yeah, cough up the details holmes! And what was the price at wally-world?
spazzboy
Release date at HMV in downtown Montreal is Tuesday the 7th, same as everybody else.
Retail price is going to be $15.99.
150 copies will be on hand.
Mine is reserved smiletf.gif
StarSkweek
QUOTE (shajaki @ Nov 5 2006, 12:07 PM) *
you got one already? details man! did they edit the swearing? did they do anything to bastardize it?



Okay, the details from what Ive seen thusfar:

- The movie has been remastered. They touched up the colors ALOT. Its alot brighter. What I found the most noticible is the first scene on Earth. The coloring on Hot Rod and Kup especially.

- Both widescreen and fullscreen versions of the movie are available on disc one and two respectively.

- The sound has been remastered in 5.1 surround

- The swearing is NOT edited! Spike still says "Oh Blot, what are we gonna do now?". thumbsup1.gif

- There are two audio commentary tracks: One with Nelson Shin, Flint Dille, and Susan Blu - the creator commentary, and a fan commentary by the webmasters of TFW2005.com and I believe spacebridge.com (?).

- There is a feature called the autobot matrix of knowledge. By activating it, you can watch the movie with little tidbits of trivia popping up on the screen every once in a while (ala VH1s pop up video).

- The so-called "sneak peak" of the live-action movie, which is alot of what is already accessible online. The interview with Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg. Plus the movie teaser.

- They included the episode of Scramble City, but it is voiced over with fan commentary.

- THe original theatrical trailer and TV spots are included. SHows a couple of things not in the final cut of the movie (different shots of Autobot City in defense mode, and Ultra Magnus in his original diaclone colors).

- Both Japanese and American toy commercials on disc two.

- On the back of the DVD case it says there are Easter Eggs, but I havent had the chance to find any yet.

- bought it for 15.87 (I believe). Under 16 dollars anyway.

I have the older copy of the movie on DVD, and comparing the two, I'm happier with the 20th anniversary edition. There are alot more bonus features, which I enjoy, and the movie itself looks and sounds VASTLY better. Hope that answers anyones questions. I recommend picking yourselves up a copy!
Kurosaki Ichigo
Sweet. Thanks for the info! The other reviews I've read didn't list the price or tell us if Spike curses again. I can't wait to retire my old rhino vhs version.
shajaki
flippin sweet. im happy.
z4nd4r
So is the "full screen" version cut down from the letterbox cut?
StarSkweek
QUOTE (z4nd4r @ Nov 5 2006, 04:39 PM) *
So is the "full screen" version cut down from the letterbox cut?



Slightly, yes.
Buddykiller
damnit, what a Powerglideing retarded thing to do!

ah well, we still get spike saying Blot!!

AND THE TOY COMMERCIALS TEEHEE!!!! NO MORE YOU TUBE!!!!!

honestly, i'm buying this for the extra stuff, and it's like getting the movie as a bonus. thats how i'm seeing it anyway, the amount of extras are insane

can't wait to pick this up
Megatronwp38
I wonder whyit was in the toy isle? I've never seen any of my wal-marts do that.
StarSkweek
QUOTE (Megatronwp38 @ Nov 5 2006, 06:21 PM) *
I wonder whyit was in the toy isle? I've never seen any of my wal-marts do that.


I wondered that myself when I saw it at my wal mart. Then I wondered why it was on the shelves four days before its offical release optimuslaugh2.gif I went back earlier today and they are still there - setting in between the Alternators and the Cybertron voyagers...
Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (StarSkweek @ Nov 5 2006, 08:25 PM) *
Then I wondered why it was on the shelves four days before its offical release optimuslaugh2.gif


I've worked in the home video buisness in one capacity or another for almost a decade total. Wal-Mart is notorious for ignoring release dates and just putting the movies on the shelf when they arrive. That can lead to hefty fines from the studios...

...not that Wal-Mart can't afford the fines, or muscle their way out of them...

...and it wouldn't stop me from picking the DVD up, myself. Good find, man! thumbsup1.gif Tuesday can't get here fast enough.
THE STIG
try using ur ps2/xbox/or pc to find the eastereggs!
StarSkweek
QUOTE (THE STIG @ Nov 5 2006, 10:24 PM) *
try using ur ps2/xbox/or pc to find the eastereggs!



I found an Easter Egg on the first disc! At the title screen, make sure the top option (bonus features) is selected, then push your left arrow button on your DVD remote twice, which will highlight the bottom option (Play) in the menu, then it will highlight the faction symbol on the title screen (It switches from Autobot to Deciepticon). Pushing 'enter' on your remote while the faction symbol is highlighted will start the Easter Egg, which is:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Havent found any easter eggs on disc two as of yet...
Maximo Prime
are there subtitles available? for the movie itself.
sertile
QUOTE
The swearing is NOT edited! Spike still says "Oh Blot, what are we gonna do now?"


SOLD
Buddykiller
QUOTE (Maximo Prime @ Nov 6 2006, 08:45 AM) *
are there subtitles available? for the movie itself.


according to TFW, who's been right thus far, there are subtitles, just not english subtitles for whatever stupid reason they could come up with
AutobotMaximal
QUOTE (sertile @ Nov 6 2006, 10:08 AM) *
QUOTE
The swearing is NOT edited! Spike still says "Oh Blot, what are we gonna do now?"


SOLD

DITTO

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Nov 6 2006, 10:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Maximo Prime @ Nov 6 2006, 08:45 AM) *

are there subtitles available? for the movie itself.


according to TFW, who's been right thus far, there are subtitles, just not english subtitles for whatever stupid reason they could come up with

They should know. Some of them actually got to work on it.
Emperor Megatron
QUOTE (AutobotMaximal @ Nov 6 2006, 10:31 AM) *
QUOTE (sertile @ Nov 6 2006, 10:08 AM) *

QUOTE
The swearing is NOT edited! Spike still says "Oh Blot, what are we gonna do now?"


SOLD

DITTO

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Nov 6 2006, 10:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Maximo Prime @ Nov 6 2006, 08:45 AM) *

are there subtitles available? for the movie itself.


according to TFW, who's been right thus far, there are subtitles, just not english subtitles for whatever stupid reason they could come up with

They should know. Some of them actually got to work on it.

Yeah, they have their own little commentary thing on it. They should have included the other big sites as well just to be fair. tounge1.gif
StarSkweek
QUOTE (Emperor Megatron @ Nov 6 2006, 09:32 AM) *
QUOTE (AutobotMaximal @ Nov 6 2006, 10:31 AM) *

QUOTE (sertile @ Nov 6 2006, 10:08 AM) *

QUOTE
The swearing is NOT edited! Spike still says "Oh Blot, what are we gonna do now?"


SOLD

DITTO

QUOTE (Buddykiller @ Nov 6 2006, 10:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Maximo Prime @ Nov 6 2006, 08:45 AM) *

are there subtitles available? for the movie itself.


according to TFW, who's been right thus far, there are subtitles, just not english subtitles for whatever stupid reason they could come up with

They should know. Some of them actually got to work on it.

Yeah, they have their own little commentary thing on it. They should have included the other big sites as well just to be fair. tounge1.gif


I think X-bob should have done commentary on the Scramble City episode thumbsup1.gif
The Light and the Darkness
Hmm.. anyone else called their wal-mart and been told they have no idea what I'm talking about?

Mine did, in the BFE portions of NC, USA.

anyone heard of this, let me know.

Ice
DjinniMan
I got mine in the mail, ordered it from Family Video. It absolutely rocks, and I am hoping there are more toy commercial easter eggs in there!
sertile
There really should be English subtitles. I'm not deaf, but I'm pretty sure that I'd still want to watch TF:TM if I were. Also, I'm hoping The Touch video is buried in there somewhere.
Buddykiller
esp considering it's on the aussie dvd O_O
The Light and the Darkness
Got mine this morning!!! 15.00 at Wallycron in NC. And after the idiot worker told me they weren't getting it. WOOHOO!!!

Even got the media center to send me a TV so that I can "teach the beauty of film music" to my first period class :-)

Ain't life grand?!

Ice
spazzboy
sweetness!
Emperor Megatron
QUOTE (IceFire Prime @ Nov 6 2006, 05:52 PM) *
Hmm.. anyone else called their wal-mart and been told they have no idea what I'm talking about?

Mine did, in the BFE portions of NC, USA.

anyone heard of this, let me know.

Ice

This is why I don't call. Most of the time the person you're talking to has no idea what you're talking about. It's best to just go to the store and look for yourself.

I'll be getting mine today, either Best Buy or Target.
mikull
i picked my up today- although my first stop (best buy at lunch time) was already sold out- 12.99 at circuit city. ...but it didn't have the lenticular cover i've heard about. i thought all the initial releases had this? i don't really care that much; it's what's inside that counts... just curious.
spazzboy
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

I went to HMV (downtown Montreal) and picked up The DVD with the cool double lenticular/tilting image for $15.99 CAD and got a bonus!

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Drumroll done!

I got a free navy Tshirt with the Autobots faction crest and TF the movie nicely written underneath. It looks prety darn sweet. bumblebeetounge.gif

My peeve though is that the magic tilting image is as tall and wide as a DVD case. I thought it was glued on but it isn't. And I can't fit it inside the case.

Methinks I will put a dab of silicone on each corner...
Hunter Rose
QUOTE (StarSkweek @ Nov 5 2006, 04:56 PM) *
QUOTE (z4nd4r @ Nov 5 2006, 04:39 PM) *

So is the "full screen" version cut down from the letterbox cut?



Slightly, yes.


To be fair - the original version was 1:33 aspect ration like all TV based cartoons.
IMO the idea of letter boxing a show that was never filmed like that originally, is pure DUMB!

but whatever makes people feel special.
Lord Madhammer
But isn't there more at the edges that we're just seeing now? Not a lot or anything, but... something?
Hunter Rose
I think thats unconfirmed.
If anything we are simply seeing a better representation of the Filmstrip that was not brought over properly with the cheapo Rhino VHS release.

But that has nothing to do with Aspect Ratio.
In fact - in order to create WIDESCREEN image out of a 1:33 source you have to cut off the top and bottom of the image to get that wider "letterboxed" look.
so we are infact seeing less image.
spazzboy
or, the image could be stretched or squeezed, depending on the POV
OptimusPrime2004
Just picked up my copy today at Walmart. Cant wait to watch it.



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Sexy Time Prime
did anyone else get theirs from amazon?

cause i got sent the Blotty plain cover. grr.gif

i'm about to go to wally world and buy another and send this one back to amazon. post-25-1104974824.gif
Hunter Rose
QUOTE (spazzboy @ Nov 7 2006, 12:54 PM) *
or, the image could be stretched or squeezed, depending on the POV


that option is rarely (though i grant you - not "never") used cause it looks HORRIBLE and obvious.
but yeah thats partially my point - there is no reason to make the TV-CARTOON movie be something its not.
mikull
with the widescreen deal- yes: you typically miss a little bit on the sides when watching something in full screen- but if i understand correctly, the widescreen version on the dvd is a response to fans who always wanted to see it- but the movie was in fact made in full screen ratio originally, then chopped for theater screenings. of course this is the opposite of how it usually is, thus a little confusion.

(and this might be clarified in the special features on the dvd- not home yet watching to know for sure.)
Skywarp76
I got my copy today at wal-mart for under 15 bucks!! And it rocks.. clap.gif .I also got the added wal-mart exclusive bonus ..which is an Autobot symbol iron-on patch!!! life is good, now I can 80's toons all day, Transformers, Voltron, He-man,Thundercats...I'm so happy... bumblebeetounge.gif
Emperor Megatron
I just finished watching the widescreen version of the movie. I'll give my thoughts on this below.

Widescreen - You can definitely tell they cut stuff off from the top and bottom and perhaps even the sides. There are 'scenes' that are much closer (ie zoomed in) than on the original VHS and DVD releases by Rhino. I've watched this movie enough that I saw it IMMEDIATELY. I'm not upset, just something I noticed

Color-Corrected - I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this. They didn't really color-correct anything, just made colors brighter and to me that doesn't count as color-correcting. If they did color-correct, there wouldn't have been two Frenzy's in that one scene among some others.

Remastered - They can get away with saying this. They made the colors brighter and perhaps in some instances they went overboard. For instance, on the Planet of Junk, in some parts Perceptor's gray/blue parts look very green and some inside shots of Unicron look much more red. Hot Rod looking more pink than red was a little weird too. They could have gone through the movie again after they brightened everything and corrected the color for Perceptor and made Hot Rod look more red than pink. I watched this on my computer so that may have caused some of some of this (Hot Rod being more pink has been thrown out by a lot of people)

I noticed on the very bottom of the widescreen version there was a bar that was changing color a lot throughout the movie. It was small but it was there and is only noticeable if you're looking for 'imperfections'. tounge1.gif

I have not watched any of the bonus features other than the 2007 movie featurette where all they really say is how much we're gonna love it.

Widescreen Grade: 8.5/10

To sum it up: The botched colors I mentioned and the failure to actually color-correct were the deciding factor for the score.
Hobbes-timus Prime
QUOTE (Emperor Megatron @ Nov 7 2006, 06:41 PM) *
Color-Corrected - I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this. They didn't really color-correct anything, just made colors brighter and to me that doesn't count as color-correcting. If they did color-correct, there wouldn't have been two Frenzy's in that one scene among some others.


To be fair, "color-correct" is an industry-wide term that isn't about animation mistakes. It applies in this case. And it does basically mean "brighter" optimuslaugh2.gif

It would've been neat to see things like the Frenzy incident fixed, but I think it is important to point out that the DVD makers aren't trying to be misleading by using the term.
The Light and the Darkness
Watched several things on the flick meself..

Widescreen/Matrix Bonuses - I didn't catch the error on the trivia that was called by the reviewer on TFormers, but I was eating dinner, so I may have not just noticed.. it wasn't mentioned where or how obvious it would be. Movie looked GREAT on my PoS Furniture style TV (which means it's over 30 years old). I agree with EM that some of the coloring was off, but overall it's still good to see the movie at least getting attention and a clean-up. The facts were mostly stuff that I knew, but several things popped up I didn't know.. including the fact that I'd never noticed just how many DIFFERENT transforms Hot Rod had.

I watched some featurettes.. so I'll give some thoughts on them.

Scramble City Episode - ok.. so I could've lived my life without hearing the guy from TFW2005 yak.. He sounded like he had many other things to do and didn't really wanna be there with someone else. But I liked the episode (what I could figure out of it with no dialogue), and I agree with the other commentator that it was good to see movie characters interacting with S1/S2 characters besides in death scenes.

Death of OP - Good featurette.. some good thoughts of the why things were done, and the fact that they realized.. "um.. maybe we f-ed up."

Q&A - oh come on.. some of these questions were good, and some were written by three y/o's.. I don't know how these got picked, or if there was something I missed on the movie site.. but sheesh..

Cast and Characters - some good insight into what it was like, plus some info on the "famous" actors interacting with the regulars.

Overall worth the $$ paid for it, and definitely trumps the Rhino version. I haven't played around much with it to look or use the Easter Eggs, so I can't speak to those or the in-movie commentary. I'm glad I got mine first thing this morning!!!

Ice

EDIT: cleared up a sentence
z4nd4r
QUOTE (HunterRose @ Nov 7 2006, 01:22 PM) *
QUOTE (StarSkweek @ Nov 5 2006, 04:56 PM) *

QUOTE (z4nd4r @ Nov 5 2006, 04:39 PM) *

So is the "full screen" version cut down from the letterbox cut?



Slightly, yes.


To be fair - the original version was 1:33 aspect ration like all TV based cartoons.

I realized that, that's why I asked if the "full screen" (note the quotes) was cut down from the letterbox.

(In other words, did they cut it down to make the LBX and then cut it down MORE to make a FS copy?)
Emperor Megatron
QUOTE (Hobbes-timus Prime @ Nov 7 2006, 08:52 PM) *
QUOTE (Emperor Megatron @ Nov 7 2006, 06:41 PM) *

Color-Corrected - I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this. They didn't really color-correct anything, just made colors brighter and to me that doesn't count as color-correcting. If they did color-correct, there wouldn't have been two Frenzy's in that one scene among some others.


To be fair, "color-correct" is an industry-wide term that isn't about animation mistakes. It applies in this case. And it does basically mean "brighter" optimuslaugh2.gif

It would've been neat to see things like the Frenzy incident fixed, but I think it is important to point out that the DVD makers aren't trying to be misleading by using the term.

It doesn't count to me. Remastered would have sufficed in this instance.
Emperor Megatron
I was just looking at the full screen version on disc 2 and it appears that that version is not as bright as the widescreen version.

Can anyone else also confirm this?

*updates sig with new G1 Megs head* biggrintf.gif biggrintf.gif
Hellscream333
Awaits GF delivery of TFTM tomorrow......my GF rules.....still wanna see the movie now though instead of reading about all of you watching it.. rumblecry.gif
spazzboy
Another Easter Egg can be found on Soundwave's "play" crotch button in the bonus features page.
From what I remember from last night...
sertile
I don't have any evidence on hand to substantiate this claim, but I distinctly recall seeing animation cells featuring Rodimus Prime circa S3, and they were pink. It's entirely possible that he was meant to be that color all along, but the general darkness of the feature obscured this fact.
spazzboy
Sounds plausible.
There's nothing wrong with a man wearing pink.
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