Optics
Sep 9 2004, 11:00 AM
i went to best buy the other day and i came across a Neon Genesis Evangelion box set for $110. I dont know much about this anime but i did hear a few good things about. I wanted to buy it but was not sure. I was just wondering if you have seen this series? what are your thoughts about it?
Lostprophet8
Sep 9 2004, 11:10 AM
Eva is O.K. if you don't mind getting horribly, horribly cofused by an anime. The art is great and the story is really intreaging, but every thime something looks like it is about to be explained, more story is added, so it just gets more confusing. As for the movies, best hyper-violence ever. It is worth it to buy the $20 movie just for a 5 minute sigment. I dunno, just cause I couldn't make sence of it doesn't mean that you cannot.
Behold, Galvatron!
Sep 9 2004, 12:48 PM
Incredible series, a must have for an anime fan
Wing Zero Kai
Sep 9 2004, 02:01 PM
3 words..
MUST SEE ANIME!
Evangelion is one Anime that portrays real depth in a storyline, with plt twists and turns left, right and center. the action is fast paced, the music and SFX are beautiful and character development is excelent.
My advice.. Skip the last 2 episodes, Skip Death and Rebirth and head straight to End of Evangelion.
The last 2 episodes were a cruel and stupid way to end the series. Death is the clipshow of the entire series, and Rebirth is the first opening part to End of Eangelion, so no point getting it if you're getting End of Eva.
Three Storms
Sep 9 2004, 02:20 PM
I didn't like it at all. The whole premise of how teens are the only ones who can save the world was goofy, and these teens having to first get through their "woe is me" teen angst BS only gave me a headache. The series gives more time to the soap opera aspect and not enough tie to mechas wreking things.
Greensight
Sep 9 2004, 04:58 PM
Eva is ok, but not for $110. I got the series for $30 dollars.
Ultimatetransfan
Sep 9 2004, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (Greensight @ Sep 9 2004, 09:50 PM)
Eva is ok, but not for $110. I got the series for $30 dollars.
I still think you cant beat free
Optics
Sep 9 2004, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Greensight @ Sep 9 2004, 05:50 PM)
Eva is ok, but not for $110. I got the series for $30 dollars.
$30!? ... i am talkin about the whole series box set, the ten dvd box set
dedguy
Sep 9 2004, 08:54 PM
30$ i'm guessing that you purchased bootleg DVD's? anywho Evangelion is the best anime series i have ever seen, hands down. this is of course ONLY AN OPINION. it's not for everyone. i wrote a paper on it
http://www.dedguy.com/eva.htmli love me some evas.
Optics
Sep 9 2004, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (dedguy @ Sep 9 2004, 09:46 PM)
30$ i'm guessing that you purchased bootleg DVD's? anywho Evangelion is the best anime series i have ever seen, hands down. this is of course ONLY AN OPINION. it's not for everyone. i wrote a paper on it
http://www.dedguy.com/eva.htmli love me some evas.

that looks sick!!! deadguy, that image alone just made me decide to buy the series box set
dedguy
Sep 9 2004, 11:44 PM
there are no Giant Robots in Eva btw... well actrually there is ONE in one episode...
Blitz
Sep 10 2004, 01:12 AM
its realy good but at times you realy feel like kicking shingi
to get what the movies are on about it helps to watch it more then once then it seems to make more sence plus the video comonty(sp) is very funny
Lostprophet8
Sep 10 2004, 07:49 AM
this thread has inspided me to rewatch the series. It is good to watch with another person to help explain to each other what is going on.
Deadguy, where did you get the white/mass produced evas? I have seen some, but the where smaller in comparison, and cheaper than the others.
dedguy
Sep 10 2004, 09:14 AM
they where at suncoast for awile, i ordered most of mine from Tower when they where like 50% off. good luck finding some now.
here's some more pics!


beaelza
Jun 15 2005, 09:46 AM
hi all,.... just felt like stikeing up a topic about evangelion. i am totaly fasinated by this anime with its fantastic plot and story lines id have 2 say this has 2 b 1 of the best anime around
does any 1 else agree with me on this?
also does any 1 have any thoies on the truth of evangelion like the true purpose of :the human intrementality progam:
where was lilith found ?
i think every 1 noes what rei realy is....
how was auska able 2 b at the end of the movie end of evangelion
and the 17th angel kauou nagisa was born on the day of second impact....born...
then how can he b human?
beaelza!
Cyclone_X
Jun 15 2005, 10:40 AM
Kaworu isnt human, he's an angel, and born can mean 'created'

EVA 01 also contains Ikari Yui, she was the one that piloted the evangelion 10 years ago, and that's how she died.
Also a question: is there a reason why Yui and Rei look alike? Is original Rei a clone of Yui?
Blitz
Jun 15 2005, 12:46 PM
well i watched the movies again with the comentary and auska is 1 not realy auska rather shinje's(sp) perfect woman Note:she has brown eyes like (forgot name but looks after him in the show and has a pet pengwin) and has a busted up arm like rei had when the 2 first met
as for the rest well Eva is a huge mind f*** near the end so you have to watched it a few times to pick it all up and even then i was still a little WTF
i like all the little things like in the car park they were in area 667 next to ofcorse 666 also all the chamber of goth stuff.
beaelza
Jun 16 2005, 08:04 AM
QUOTE (Cyclone_X @ Jun 15 2005, 10:40 AM)
Also a question: is there a reason why Yui and Rei look alike? Is original Rei a clone of Yui?
yes rei is a clone of yui but she has the genes of lilith that is why she was able 2 murge with lilith and said just b4 "im home"
beaelza
Jun 16 2005, 08:13 AM
QUOTE (Blitz @ Jun 15 2005, 12:46 PM)
well i watched the movies again with the comentary and auska is 1 not realy auska rather shinje's(sp) perfect woman Note:she has brown eyes like (forgot name but looks after him in the show and has a pet pengwin) and has a busted up arm like rei had when the 2 first met
as for the rest well Eva is a huge mind f*** near the end so you have to watched it a few times to pick it all up and even then i was still a little WTF
i like all the little things like in the car park they were in area 667 next to ofcorse 666 also all the chamber of goth stuff.
ah i undersand now his purfect woman is a hibrid of rei,auska +misato
shajaki
Dec 15 2005, 03:58 AM
this is the set in question:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Neon-Genesis-Evangelio...1QQcmdZViewItemi just bought it and i expected something more racey. ive watched the first disc episodes 1-5. theres no cursing, nudity and little blood. so im wondering is it censored? cuz if it is i would take it back and find the uncensored version elsewhere.
KaedeEX
Dec 15 2005, 05:03 AM
I'm pretty sure it's the real deal, with a (noticeably) improved picture quality and a new English dub.
Hadlen Weltall
Dec 15 2005, 07:11 AM
okay one joke that guarentees censorship if its not there.
Second Episode: Shinji comes racing out of the bathroom at the sight of Pen Pen. Misato lifts her beer can. shows the "tooth pick" jar.
If this joke's not there then its censored. original "Toonami" planned episode cut out the Pen Pen scenes all together.
Aside: old Eva disks had a few curse words there but later on in the series did they go a little more 'intense' by syndication standards. Visually Eva's clean, they make reference but no visuals.... until Death and Rebirth... nuff said on that one if you know what I mean.
mx-01 archon
Dec 15 2005, 02:36 PM
Any modern EVA releases should be uncensored. And the show is pretty tame, all things considered, and it's all self-censored (the aforementioned Pen-Pen shower gag). There's a tiny bit of "fanservice" in a few eps of the series, but no real nudity, and swearing is mild. It's really only the movie, End of Evangelion, that has any questionable material on it, with a lot of full-blown nudity, and the F-bomb is dropped a few times.
shajaki
Dec 17 2005, 03:45 AM
watched all 26 episodes. read a lil bit on some websites. still confused.
first off, it was coming to a climax where we learn about rei, shinji gets deeper involved with his eva, we learn more about his fathers plans, about the origin of the evas, adam, lilith, and then... the last two episodes drop off and are completely about shinjis mental state, when in the end he accepts himself (or something, thats how i interpreted it) and then its over. everything they were building up to, with the attacks of the angels and such, almost had no bearing in the end. it was all about shinji. so hes at a healthy state of mind now. hooray for shinji. what about everything else that the series dealt with?? are we to forget about that?
maybe its just me but i found the surrounding characters and events far more innteresting that shinjis internal struggle. i have yet to see end, death or rebirth. do they take place after the series ended? or replace the last two episodes as a sort of alternate ending for those who wanted more? and... one other question... some sites have said that unit01 has the soul of shinjis mother within it. but they also say that rei was made from his mother and that her soul resides in rei. even though there are multiple rei's, the one that walks around has a soul. i think. im so confused.
shajaki
Dec 17 2005, 03:55 AM
another question:
the seventeenth angel/ kaoru/ tabris- he had a human form, and actually seemed to have a mind of his own, even feelings and an agenda. im not quite sure why he spoke to that council.. thing... or if he was working for them. but why was he like that when the previous 16 angels seemed to be souless monsters only to exist for the destruction of the humans and/or the destruction of tokyo3?
Greensight
Dec 17 2005, 07:05 AM
Did you see the two movies??
Anway, I think this evangelion was/is highly overrated.
X-Bob58
Dec 17 2005, 10:01 AM
QUOTE (greensight @ Dec 17 2005, 10:05 AM)
Did you see the two movies??
Anway, I think this evangelion was/is highly overrated.
Cyclone_X
Dec 17 2005, 10:39 AM
QUOTE (shajaki @ Dec 17 2005, 03:55 AM)
another question:
the seventeenth angel/ kaoru/ tabris- he had a human form, and actually seemed to have a mind of his own, even feelings and an agenda. im not quite sure why he spoke to that council.. thing... or if he was working for them. but why was he like that when the previous 16 angels seemed to be souless monsters only to exist for the destruction of the humans and/or the destruction of tokyo3?
all angels had 1 purpose: to come into contact with Adam (1st angel)
and we, humans, are also 'angels', I'm not quite sure, but I think humans are the 'ultimate'/'final' form, thats why Kaworu is very human
to all EVA fans: also read the manga, it tells the story a bit differently with new info

(9 volumes available already)
Hadlen Weltall
Dec 17 2005, 10:47 AM
okay. Cyclone hit a few things I wanted to say but this is some other stuff I could get out of my experience with Eva.
Version 1.5 of Evangelion depicts that Tabris was sent by Seele. More precisely Chairman Keele. He was the ace in the whole if Gendo followed his own plans. Tabris made physical contact with the humans at Nerv and began to realize what would happen should HE make contact with Adam. IT was then he discovered it was Lillith that was under NERV HQ and made the decision that humans should live and that the angels should perish.
According to the comics, Tabris' contact with Shinji was less physical and more psychological. because when they meet, Tabris picks up a sick kitten and kills it. Shinji counters him by saying that was wrong and then Tabris presents the idea that if they let the kitten live, it would still die on its own.
His idea passes along to the idea that this is how humans are. If they don't make violent contact they will die on their own, the angel's intervention results in an immediate death and he presents Shinji with the dilemma of what he truely wants...
IN THE END:
Death and Rebirth goes about recapping the series in 45 minutes. There are interludes with the children in a band practice and each time one of them enters the story shifts to their portion: Shinji from the start (to wherever) Asuka from her entrance and her psychosis, Rei to her 'evolution' of a soul. and ends off with Tabris and his death. The irony of it remains and stands out more that the statue Tabris first appears by when he meets Shinji is an Angel with its head gone (the result of Tabris v. Eva01.
Rebirth then picks up with the last days of NERV and their destruction at the hands of the UN. compliments of Seele. Asuka's in a coma from her ordeal, Shinji's hiding in himself (hence where the last two episodes of the TV series takes place). Rei returns to Nerv and goes down with Gendo to the final layer....
End of Evangelion literally runs through Rebirth and goes into the final 'episodes' of the series: "Air/My heart with yours" where Asuka comes out of her coma and fights off the final EVA series which run off a dummy plug designed after Tabris. She loses, Shinji reluctantly returns and falls victim to his own psychosis and the Lance of Longinus returns to make contact with EVA-01, thus the beginning of Third Impact....
Aquarion
Dec 17 2005, 04:22 PM
QUOTE (Cyclone_X @ Dec 17 2005, 04:09 PM)
and we, humans, are also 'angels', I'm not quite sure, but I think humans are the 'ultimate'/'final' form
that plot element certainly gives some insight into the japanese view of the universe.
KaedeEX
Dec 17 2005, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (Hornet @ Dec 17 2005, 04:22 PM)
that plot element certainly gives some insight into the japanese view of the universe.
Actually, Evangelion creator Hideaki Anno tried to craft the show's plot from the Dead Sea Scrolls, meaning it's really this one Japanese guy's view of Christianity's view of the universe.
And by the end, it's not a very entertaining view, either.
Greensight
Dec 17 2005, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (X-BoB58 @ Dec 17 2005, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE (greensight @ Dec 17 2005, 10:05 AM)
Did you see the two movies??
Anway, I think this evangelion was/is highly overrated.

What I can't think the series was cr@p?? I'm sorry I don't think every gawddang robot series is gold.
Hadlen Weltall
Dec 17 2005, 07:37 PM
To each his own. In my own ways I hate Eva but at the same time I am a fan of it. I'm Jewish so I don't feel 'offended' by the Christian elements either.
X-Bob58
Dec 17 2005, 08:00 PM
Eva reviatalized the Gaint robot Genra and helped intedeuse Anime to the west.
Just becuse something is over-rated dosn't mean it isn't good.
Greensight
Dec 17 2005, 08:23 PM
QUOTE (X-BoB58 @ Dec 17 2005, 10:00 PM)
Eva reviatalized the Gaint robot Genra and helped intedeuse Anime to the west.
Just becuse something is over-rated dosn't mean it isn't good.
I still don't like it and don't care. It just wasn't that good to me, and *see previous post*
Aquarion
Dec 18 2005, 07:11 PM
the only resaon people watch NGE is so they can wank off to Rei and Asuka. as for myself, i prefer to cut out the middleman and go directly for the hentai.
X-Bob58
Dec 18 2005, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (Hornet @ Dec 18 2005, 10:11 PM)
the only resaon people watch NGE is so they can wank off to Rei and Asuka. as for myself, i prefer to cut out the middleman and go directly for the hentai.
The Reason peaple watch it is becuse it's a milestone of anime
mx-01 archon
Dec 19 2005, 01:40 AM
Just because it's a milestone doesn't make it good. It just means it was different enough to warrant a second or third look, and draw curiosity on those merits alone.
It's far from a perfect series. It sets forward some good concepts, but because of the sudden change in focus from beginning to end of the series, as a whole it winds up feeling rushed, and disjointed. It started off as mostly a lighthearted giant-robot romp with a touch of human angst, and then suddenly halfway through the series, the director, Hideako Anno decided that he wanted to use it more as an allegorical take on his own life experiences, and the differences between the two segments of the series are as disparate as night and day. And the result is a hideously convoluted plot that winds up being told in half the amount of time that it should have. That, and the ending blows. Not to say that I need a happy ending. I just don't like endings that backpedal and negate any form of development throughout the course of the story.
On the flipside, from an artistic standpoint, I love the series. The character/mecha/monster designs were wonderful, so much that I broke down and plunked down the cash just the other day for the super-expensive Soul of Chogokin Unit 1, which is simply beautiful.
Hadlen Weltall
Dec 19 2005, 06:41 AM
See the thing is Anno had his plan with Eva all along. IF you read the comics you get a second view of series from the eyes of the show's art director/character designer/mecha designer. Yoshiyuki Sadamoto. He's more lighthearted than his friend but still takes the path he set in motion. But from the first issue you know htere's more human problems than monster battles. Sadamoto does better to translate what Anno wants. With Shinji's first battle ending the same way but as he watches Tokyo 3 rise up all he can think of is "why couldn't my dad say he was proud of me too...."
At the end of the first volume of the book Sadamoto published Anno's memoir of the series. "How have I come this far..." At the end of the series when it flashes "Thank you to my father, Farewell to my mother, and to all the children, Congradulations" This was Anno's message to everyone. The downside is that we in the West didn't know the whole story when he made this so all we can think of is 'its a lame ending attempt' and we don't know the deeper meaning unless we care enough to know it. and although its in Japanese, at the start of the second half of the "End of Evangelion" Anno makes one final letter saying how he's greatful to everyone thats put up with him. Thanks to the three women that 'created' Misato, Rei, and Asuka. and above else, Thanks to his father.
Galaxy Maximus
Dec 19 2005, 07:49 AM
While I'm a big fan of EVA, I think they hint way too much at things that aren't really there.
KaedeEX
Dec 19 2005, 09:22 AM
I just think that while there's a lot of physchological stuff, it's just not entertaining. Case in point: the second half of End of Evangelion. The crayon drawings and animations using the backs of cels are just lazy and boring. The first half is so riveting since it has a strong sense of direction, great animation, and a tremendous cliffhanger, but the second half just drops the ball in every category. Entertainment such as anime is meant to entertain above all else, so if it fails to even do that, I don't give a damn about anything it has to say. That's my standard and I'm sticking to it.
Starscream the great
Mar 10 2006, 02:26 AM
I've just watched the whole series which is awsome but I hear about a movie where does it take place in the story is it after the series or in between?
shajaki
Mar 10 2006, 04:44 AM
i tried to start a discussion about tis a while back but theres not much love for anime here. anyways theres two movies: death and rebirth, and end of evangelion. if youve seen the series i wouldnt reccomend death and rebirth. all that is is the series summed up in 40 min and then the beggining of the other movie, end of eva. end of eva is an alternate ending to the series. you know how the series drops off into complete depressive nonsensical psychiatric craziness? all the while ditching every other aspect of the show up until that point? not many people liked that. so the writer of the series made a movie to replace those last few episodes and conclude the story. its deffinatly worth seeing to find out what happens to people other than shinji. i mean he wasnt the only character in the show for christ sake.
any questions afterword ill try my best to help... theres still a bit i dont fully understand
Cabal
Mar 10 2006, 06:29 AM
Death & Rebirth is not completely worthless, unless you are just looking for story. As art, its great.
shajaki
Mar 10 2006, 06:31 AM
QUOTE (Don Cassetti @ Mar 10 2006, 07:29 AM)
Death & Rebirth is not completely worthless, unless you are just looking for story. As art, its great.

i just meant as far as story line youre better off watching the series.
Starscream the great
Mar 12 2006, 01:08 AM
Alright then my next task is to find that movie!
Starscream the great
Mar 18 2006, 04:53 PM
Finally watched it
some F*&ked up Blot in that though but it did answer all but one question at the end did everyone come back just before the thrid impact started?
Artimus Gigan
Mar 18 2006, 05:23 PM
The Manga is better than the Anime
honestly it makes the Mindscrew part of the series be cohereant, so if it's throwing you thru mental loops, read the damn books, they actually had time to explain everything clearly.
it also doesn't go off into clipshows
However they are also bringing over the other Eva Manga Series to the US, which is good because the other series have very funny parts and capitalise on solid character build-up
TFVMMA
Mar 4 2008, 09:10 AM
founded this old tread. Do anyone had seen the new movie EVANGELION 1.0 you are not alone? i have and i think its preety good it doesnt bring almost anything new but still preety cool.
New Soundwave
Mar 14 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (TFVMMA @ Mar 4 2008, 10:10 AM)

founded this old tread. Do anyone had seen the new movie EVANGELION 1.0 you are not alone? i have and i think its preety good it doesnt bring almost anything new but still preety cool.
Do you care to elaborate? If it's good, I'll definitely check it out
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