well, this is a limited edition box, with the 3 robots having a limited edition color finish, and gaogaigar has some joints refined for better posing (that's what it wrote)

but i still wont buy it

http://www.cmscorp.jp/product/dx_gbg.htm

hmm, i am not too sure about this, it's very pricey, it looks like it's not going to be as posable as the ones before (granted this is, i believe, the first **transformable** toy rendition of bangan ever made so they have to come up with everything from scratch), but 2200 units only (each box will have a serial number printed on it)....i wonder how much diecast is on this thing but given that this is not part of the "brave gokkin" line (it only says DX bangan) i guess we shouldn't expect much diecast

i bought brave gokkin gaofaigar when i was in japan for 10,000yen (yup!) and i wasn't terribly impressed with it to be honest; has some design flaws

It'll have diecast. It's like their initial limited release Genesic Gaogaigar, which too, was labelled "DX" instead of "Brave Gokin".

ya but that first dx genesic gaogaigar has minimal diecast; it's mostly plastic (i checked it myself by hand when i was in japan during xmas)
and plus, if it will have a decent amount of diecast, it would be categorized under brave gokkin instead, no?

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed that BaanGaan'll have a decent amount of diecast. I don't think die-cast content has any bearing on what line it's released under.

hmm, not to be an ass by repeating myself again, then why do they label it under DX then? anyways, i will take your word for it

on a different note, it seems that the toy in the sample images is just made of resin and spray painted? because if you ask me, something doesnt look right about the material...

so will anybody here buy this? I really wonder how posable this thing is, particularly the lower part of the body; it seems like the hips can't move up and down, and the fact that the company only pose the toy as boring standing poses kinda have me concerned

They probably called it DX because theyrecently released the Mecha Action Series version of Great Baan Gaan and didnt want to confuse some folks.

I recently bought Brave Revival 05 Great Goldran and love it. I also had the korean Sonokong Goldran and I must say the joints in that is much better. Is it because of the material they changed certain parts too? Mold degradation? Most noticeable is Dran's left arm which is EXTREMELY loose and will drop to his waist as soon as I let it go. Some glue on the insides via unscrewing the shoulder helped. Also Goldran's upper legs are also very loose. None of these were an issue for the Korean version. For those that have the Brave Revival are these issues in all of them?

my joints are perfect and tight for my brave revivial goldran, absolutely no issues

if anything, it requires trial and error if you want to spread goldran's legs in a "symmetral" manner, but that's only because i am trying to set between rachet joints so i can't complain about that

http://www.amiami.com/shop/ProductInfo/product_id/69586

finally, a toy-oriented collection book on yuusha toys

turns out that there are some hk dealers taking orders for DX great baangann too......at a price cheaper than 36000yen MSRP....which is a good thing because not only is this "limited 2200 units" is likely to be bullBlot (ie i can buy this outside of cms), but also i can choose not to be hasty on my judgement and patiently wait for reviews to come out and then decide if the toy's worth the money or not

just wondering is their any plans for a 3rd MPB?

i somehow doubt it for the time being, nor have i heard of any news regarding takara brave masterpiece, especially with the merger of takara and tomy it's really hard to tell how the company takes its priorities now....

i think you are stuck CM's for now, for better or for worse

Did spot a die-cast GaiGo in Forbidden Planet London for £120 - was sorely tempted to grab it..

I really wonder why toys from Brave Saga are so expensive... they are not that old... on ebay to get get form example Enryu you must pay more than for new C Prime..Of course, I have Simba's bootlegs at my local shop for 10 dollars each, but that's not the same...

I really think a toyline that is at least 10 years old is already considered 'old'. If not for Sonokong still producing them then I'd say the prices for Braves would be even higher.

I read through about 4 pages worth of posts, but didn't see if anyone touched on this yet. What would be a good toy to start with for a Brave series collection?

really depends on which series in particular you like. if you pretty much go for anything then CM's brave gokkin series would be a good start, although quite expensive

or if you are looking for action figures that don't transform, you can look into some of the yujin's figures and they cost relatively less obviously

I've got an old King Exkaiser -brought it last year from Forbidden Planet in London for about £30-40. Granted, it wasn't the Masterpiece Exkaiser, but it is still pretty cool

and if you have alot of money to blow, and i mean A LOT, studio half-eye, the makers of the ultra expensive dinky (as in size) transformable brave robots, seems to be taking orders for a second batch production for their perfect final fusion gaifaigar....but it will likely cost you an arm and a leg aka at least 500 bucks (msrp is about 63,000yen)

just fyi

Well, the Gaogaigar I've got on order is costing around £140 (including postage). Is that a reasonable price?

you will have to show us the link for the actual toy in question for me to make a reasonable judgement, as there are at least a dozen of variations of gaogaigar, from various companies, and limited and normal editions combined....and best if you tell us what 140 pounds in USD as well

Well, I've ordered the Brave Gohkin Genesis Gaogaigar; the pic should be below.

It's the die-cast transforming version, which was originally $600 when it was first released. But I have managed to get it for only $200 (which is roughly £100), plus postage. None too shabby, eh?

all things considered, ya it's pretty good for CM's genesic if it's $200; that's the typical price in japan as well, if they still have it in stock

the best price i have seen in japan was 30,000yen for a set of genesic plus star ggg (so 2 toys). i would have bought it but they are just too big for my luggage

i ended up buying gaofaigar for less than 10,000yen

Well, my Genesic Gaogaigar arrived earlier today, and I'll be damned if it ain't the biggest robot I've seen since Cybertron Primus!! Will have to do pix of it later in the week to show how monstrous this bugger is!!

I'm waiting for my Land Bison =)

It smells like coolness to me.

well, actually there is a bigger version of genesic ggg, the dx (non diecast) version. it's by the same company (CMS) but it has its own pros and cons compared to the one you got, but one of the most notable differences is that it's bigger

and...errhm, i think my super starscream (or unicron)is bigger than cybertron primus

but honestly speaking...my gaofaigar isn't very tall when combined; its even shorter than cybertron prime super mode. and i don think your diecast version of genesic ggg is any taller/bigger than gaofaigar, especially when all the CMS gaogaigar figures are designed so that you can interchange body parts from other robots as you wish (as in, you can put gaofaigar's drill legs onto genesic etc)...i'd say genesic will likely to be slightly bigger in volume than gaofaigar, but i think it's roughly the same volume as cybertron prime at best...and as we all know, cybertron prime is not even close to the primus' height

my fully chromed great goldran, however, is as tall as primus. here's a height comparison of some of the taller robots that i own:

Click to view attachment

i have "disarmed" some of the robots to avoid any "height cheating" because of a huge/long weapon
front row from left to right: reissue chrome great goldran, TRU galaxy convoy clear version, masterpiece great exkaizer, and CMS gaofaigar....and you know what those 2 at the back are

i didnt include MP megatron though; he's stuck in gun mode and my MP convoy and super fire convoy are stuck in their boxes and i dont own unicorn, but anyhow you get the idea of the height and clearly starscream and primus wins in the photo in terms of height....but i can understand that you may have gotten such impression from the size of the box (excessive styrofoam)

Hang on a sec - I think I must have the DX Gaogaigar, as it's got that on the box!! And your damn right about it being bigger - this guy is gigantic!! It definitely dwarfs most of my other robot bits, both in height and width (GadgetGao has one impressive wingspan). Am now even more happy I got him for £140!!

if that is the case, there is pretty almost no diecast on your toy, and the value of your toy also depends on which version of the dx toy you got since the first version had big design issues and had to be "recalled" for an updated version (i think that was mentioned earlier in the thread?), but even so the updated version was known for issues such as flimpsy connections/parts etc

objective ways to tell if your genesic is the DX version or the diecast brave gokkin version:
- box printing: is it full color or just plain black/monotone?
- do the drill leg parts have diecast?
- how does genesic gaigar (lion robot mode) transform from lion to robot as well as final fusion? does it require pulling off/inserting the robot head via a ball joint on the neck?
- does it have a variety of various hand poses to swap with or just one pair of generic fists?

i seriously hope you didn't get the "first/pre-recall version" though (because if that's the case the toy is relatively more worthless and they sell for quite cheaper in japan). you might wanna show us the pic of the box itself, but if you got the post-recall version then to a certain extent ya u got a pretty good geal as you are correct earlier that it was a good $600 when it was first released (but you were wrong about the diecast part )

Well, the box is plain black with the "DX Genesic GaoGaiGar" in gold lettering with the other writing on it in grey n white, and yes, the robot heads attach via a ball-n-socket joint on Galeon / GaiGar. It only has one set of generic fists, although it does transform from each mode pretty well, with Final Fusion mode being a bit back heavy. Am still pretty happy with it either way, whether it be diecast or not. As for pix, I will do some in a while, and post them, ok?

EDIT: anyway, here's a pic of the box - sorry it's grainy, as I used my mobile phone to take the pic!!

yeah that looks bad ass i want one

that's the post-recalled version, and yes no diecast, and yes i must admit that you have gotten a good deal for $200usd!

why do i know so much? because i was thinking of buying one myself (although not as cheap as yours in terms of price) when i was in japan last xmas which lead me to do an all-nighter internet research on differences...but decided to go against it simply because of the size of the box being too big for my luggage

i personally would prefer this version over the diecast version myself

Well, I should warn you about it being rather back-heavy in Final Fusion mode - might have to make a support gantry out of something to keep it upright!!

I'm waiting for my Linear Dagwon! He is so cool!

Well, I finally took pix of my Gaogaigar and its various components. Ok, I need to reshoot some of the pix, but am sure you folks will like this:

*waits eagerly for the reissue MAX Factory Genesic*

kinda old news but kinda bumping this up since CMS has updated with newer and hopefully final pics of DX great bangaan

http://www.cmscorp.jp/product/dx_gbg.htm

as i expected (and contrary to what mx-01 archon claimed), mostly plastic (and likely very minimal diecast) to me according to the photos

ADD:
it looks like the robots will have fists that can be swapped (based on how the fingers look different on mach-superion when holding the shotgun)

looks cool

but i sorta feel takaratomy would try making the master peace braves again since i really liked the first 2

My last Brave add, Exkizer:

http://katouseisakujyoxrated.web.fc2.com/W...e/GBAANGAAN.htm

great baangaan is out

I got one of those too, Rodr!! Got it a couple of years ago for £40, from Forbidden Planet in London. Ok, would rather have the masterpiece one, but it's still a pretty good find!!

http://koshihara.air-nifty.com/blog/2007/07/post_b031.html

more better photos of DX baangaan. looks pretty much all plastic and no diecast to me as i have expected (other than some structural frames like the one that holds baangaan's dragon wings)

and looks like mach superion doesnt really transform but swapping parts here and there, and look at all those extraneous leftover parts in great baangaan...

what seems to amaze people (from the reviews i have read so far) is the size of baan (the cyan car) as it is actually the size of a minicon...

Hi
I know very little about Brave,but some of the figures are stunning.
Can anyone tell me how big the brave masterpiece figures are & also the dx great baangan.

i have a height comparison of brave masterpiece at the middle of page9 of this thread

dx great baangaan, not sure but this toy will definitely cost you an arm and a leg as i have seen prices going almost doubled now and its only a week since the release

Thanks for the info.yeah baangaan is pretty expensive but it does look so cool & i have spent double what ive seen him for on single t.f.s in the past.
I managed to get the brave collectors book (the one like T.F. Generations) so hopefully when that arrives i`l learn some more.Also thinking of getting the gaogiagar series on dvd.
Can anyone tell me what the best (toy) version of gaogiagar that transforms is to get.

well if you are willing to spend like 500 USD (i dont) on a DX baangaan (which is almost double the official retail price) this place has 2 available:

http://www.locushk.com/index.php?sp=&p...p;more=&lang=en

If you want to play with a gaogaigar toy, go with Takara's Old GGG toy, also, the goldion hammer! no star GGG though. Easy to transform and fun!

if you want to play, and care about aestetis, go with CM's GGG, you can get Star GGG and the GOldion hammer add-on.

Mach Sperion is supposed to break up. The animation from the game is very similar to the transformation of the toy.
here's my pics:


















Some more:

Soo cool,couple of questions whats the quality like and were they worth the price tag.

The quality is quite good I'd say. I've only had God Raijinoh so thats the only thing by CM's I can compare with and this blows it away. It has very few diecast parts as said above. So it feels a lot lighter than God Raijinoh and Masterpiece Great Exkaiser. Despite what the pics on the site says the plastic isnt the usual bland coloured plastic. The surface is glittery giving it a semi-metallic effect. There ARE semi-fragile parts though (Baan and Sperion feel REALLY fragile and Great Baan Gaan's head piece feel fragile too and its worse when attached to Sperion's rear so I'd recommend anyone who buys this to not attach it. The transformation to any of the modes arent 100% accurate to the animation. Transformation of Gaan Dasher to Gaan Dragon form requires add-on dragon legs, neck, tail and claws, and Mach Phoenix and Mach Jet have two 'bases' which all the parts for Mach Sperion attach to form the specific vehicle/beast. Also Mach Sperion and Baan Gaan seem to have balancing issues. They love to fall over. Not so much Great Baan Gaan since he's got giant 'boots' on. Overall, I think it was completely worth my money. A bit more diecast (on the feet/legs at least!) wouldve been a welcome addition. More hands for posing too.It depends on how 'attached' you are to the character. I've been waiting for this ever since Brave Saga first came out. I really liked it from when I first saw his combination sequence. Thats why it is a must have for me. For others approach with caution. You may not feel it's worth $400-600 (I payed $440). The reason it cost so much is that its limited and CM's refuse to ship to overseas so most stores had to get it through a supplier in japan and that boosted the price significantly (According to one of the stores anyway). Great Baan Gaan is supposed to be limited to a couple thousand pieces. But I'm not exactly sure if it'll become that rare after a while. Heres a few more pics: