QUOTE (splendic @ Jan 9 2005, 10:27 AM)
QUOTE (skullfire @ Jan 9 2005, 03:27 AM)
QUOTE (splendic @ Jan 8 2005, 10:59 PM)
Yeah, but slander (don't get me wrong, she
was totally wrong for what she did) is a civil offense, and making death threats is a criminal offense. Both are wrong, and because they're all "kids" we say "Oh, wow. Stupid kids get over yourselves and grow up." With (possible) death threats being on the table, though, if these kids were just a couple years older we'd be reacting to the case a little differently.
So while the first girl is wrong and guilty of something, this isn't as simple as "who threw the first punch". Retaliatory action that would have been equal would have been putting her image online as the biggest slut ever, and the listing every guy/girl she had been known to make out with, or get it on with, or whatever (of course this would have backfired by making her the most popular girl in school

).
...You may all think how awlfull the death threats were but you have absolutly no idea what kids will do to someone they think is gay.......what my friend told me made me sick and then to see it in action don't get me started (I've seen a lot of fights), that's why I taught him the headlock trick.
Look, no offense seriously, but do you think you were the only person that knew somebody that was called gay or severely harrassed in all grades of school? We
ALL do! That is a part of growing up
everywhere.
I know a closeted gay kid who was so fraggin' made fun of in school that he shot himself in the face his senior year, and we all have similar stories. Just because I know somebody who actually died as a result of it, doesn't mean I know these situations better than you.
My brother had a lot of problems in school, and got pretty harrassed. He had some internet list going and his computer got confiscated by the police. I taught him to stand up for himself in verbal and physical manners, he did, made a concentrated effort to make other kids laugh with him, instead of other people (okay, maybe the teachers) and he didn't get bothered anymore.
That girl sexually harrassed the boy, fine, but death threats/serious violence are never acceptable, and if a kid can't deal with being made fun of in some other way than trying to choke someone else to death, or make death threats, than
he is psycho, and is obviously not able to deal with the unfair nature and other dicks in life.
And if you read my earlier post, you'd see that I was picked on severely for awhile and so was my brother, so I know. My friend that killed himslef that was picked on...there was something wrong with him, too, and his family asnd friends didn't know how or bother to deal with that aspect of life. It wasn't only the harrasment that got to him.
I already agreed that the girl was wrong...really wrong, but you're making it sound like the extreme things that
a few of the kids that get made fun of do in retaliation is okay, and it is
not. (and really think about how many kids in school got made fun of a lot...how many of them tried to kill or seriously threatened their antogonizers?).
Thanks Splendic,
Now we got some real reaction here!
I was almost starting to think that people were getting a little numb here.
And no, I truly don't think that I'm the only person who knew someone in school that got picked on and called gay. I made it sound that way so some one in here would open up and talk more about this from the picked on kids point of view.
Further more as I said before my old school friend is far from psycho.
I feel the problem here with this case is that the issue of the death threats........and who's making them.
If some one is making death threats to someone else who has done nothing wrong then we have a serious problem.
But with the kids case, this girl (and buddies) tortured this poor guy and you know he has told them to stop. These kids didn't stop........they kept on going and going and going all the way to the internet.
"Hey check it out you are the BIGGEST QUEER in school and we're going to let the Whole World Wide Web know about it!"
Yeah that was bright........
Death threats on the internet? Thats a kids fantasy about revenge he put on the web to scare the girl and her friends.
It was the loudest non-violent shouting of the word STOP he could come up with (as well as a cry for help).
Oh yeah the 2 key words here are NON VIOLENCE.
If this kid here had been a real psycho, he would not have put his threats on the net.
He would have esculated it to a more VIOLENT level.
This girl needs to quit crying and be glad she only abused a normal well adjusted boy. With what this girl did...she could have become a REAL victim in which case I would have felt bad for both the kid and her.
To the girls parents:
As with the parents (like this is going to reach them) I'm sorry you had to deal with the fact that you a have a real disturbed little girl. I'm not sure if better parenting would have helped...I truly greive for you. This girl needs some serious counseling.
To the boys parents:
Please understand that your boy was trying to make an end to a nightmare, that he was most likly embarassed to tell you about. He isn't psycho he has just been verdally sexually abused by some pretty sick kids. I advice you to get the best lawyer in town to make this a case of your boy trying to deffend himself non-violently. Also your kid is going to need counseling as well.
Well I know that this will get nowhere but I feel better writing it.
As you all might have guessed my sympathy is for the boy and I pray that the leagal system will see that it was the girls actions that caused this mess from the start.
In short if she was nice to the kid from the start we wouldn't be talking about this.