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Darth Caine
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It sounds like science fiction, by scientists say it might one day be possible to erase undesirable memories from the brain, selectively and safely.

Using a complex genetic approach, U.S. and Chinese researchers believe they have done just that in mice, but the feat is far from being tested on humans.

Study co-author Joe Z. Tsien, co-director of the Brain & Behavior Discovery Institute at the Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, says the "work reveals a molecular mechanism of how [memory deletion] can be done quickly and without doing damage to brain cells."

The finding is published in the Oct. 23 issue of Neuron.

Humans plagued by painful memories have long wished for a way to eject them from the brain. The concept was the premise of the popular 2004 film Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, in which two former lovers pay a "memory-erasure" service to expunge the unhappy affair from their minds.

To explore the possibility of safely carving away bits of memory, the study authors first focused on the activity of a common protein found only in the brain, called CaMKII.

In both mice and people, this enzyme is often referred to as the "memory molecule" because of its key role in facilitating brain cell communication -- especially people's ability to learn and retain information.

To hone in on the specific workings of CaMKII, Tsien and his team first developed a "chemical-genetic method" that enabled them to instantly turn the protein "on" or "off" among mice intentionally bred to overproduce the molecule.

After exposing the mice to emotionally powerful stimulations, such as a mild shock to their paws, the scientists then observed how well or poorly the animals subsequently recalled the particular trauma as their brain's expression of CaMKII was manipulated up and down.

When the brain was made to overproduce CaMKII at the exact moment the mouse was prodded to retrieve the traumatic memory, the memory wasn't just blocked, it appeared to be fully erased.

This occurred without impacting the animal's ability to recall any other memories, the scientists say.

A similar observation was made in experiments involving the mice's recognition of specific objects. In those cases, overexpression of CaMKII appeared to eliminate all memory of toys with which the mice had previously been exposed.

According to Tsien, the animal study illustrates how the targeted erasure of specific memories might be genetically triggered in a controlled and harmless manner.

The authors stressed that their work is in its infancy, but they believe it opens up the theoretical possibility of therapeutic applications for humans down the road. Memory erasure might help relieve trauma among people plagued by fearful memories, such as those with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), for example.

"While memories are great teachers and obviously crucial for survival and adaptation, selectively removing incapacitating memories, such as traumatic war memories or an unwanted fear, could help many people live better lives," Tsien said.

However, Dr. Joe Verghese, an associate professor of neurology at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, cautioned that the animal work described in the study remains preliminary.

"I think the idea of selectively targeting memory processes is very interesting," he said, "because it not only opens up a whole area of possible intervention but also reveals something about the neurobiology that goes into creating memory in the brain."

"But memory in a human is much more complex than a memory in a mouse," Verghese added. "So, this experimental model, while it brings to mind all sorts of possible applications, is many steps removed from any human application."

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Scary.
Lord Madhammer
What could go wrong?
Stormtrooper53

WE CAN REMEMBER IT FOR YOU WHOLESALE'D!!!!!
Cool Hand Lube
DAMMIT.

ST53 beat me to it.
Stormtrooper53
Phillip K. Dick reference?
Cool Hand Lube
Are you coming on to me? slytf.gif
siburke939
don't we already have alcohol?
Stormtrooper53
Studies have conclusively shown that alcohol only makes you forget stuff you did WHEN you're under the influence of alcohol.
"Holy shot, man! Did I really let that chick grind her fat ass on my lap? I'm soooooo glad I was drunk."

Attempts to erase with alcohol memories of stuff you did when you were sober don't work out as well.
Hip-Hoptimus Rime
Actually this is more along the lines of "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". thus, I say:

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'd!
Bestimus Mucho


another satisfied customer.


skeletor.png Hip-Hoptimus Rime!!!!
Stormtrooper53
Yeah, but Jim Carey didn't turn in to a kick-ass secret agent. And I'm pretty sure there wasn't an "ZOMFG! Two chicks are kicking each other in the lolcat" fight, either.

NOW GET YOUR ASS TO MARS'D!!!!
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:34 PM) *
Yeah, but Jim Carey didn't turn in to a kick-ass secret agent. And I'm pretty sure there wasn't an "ZOMFG! Two chicks are kicking each other in the lolcat" fight, either.

NOW GET YOUR ASS TO MARS'D!!!!
Kate Winslet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon Stone but that's J M O
Cool Hand Lube
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 12:34 PM) *
Yeah, but Jim Carey didn't turn in to a kick-ass secret agent. And I'm pretty sure there wasn't an "ZOMFG! Two chicks are kicking each other in the lolcat" fight, either.

NOW GET YOUR ASS TO MARS'D!!!!


But there's no air up there!!!



QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Oct 22 2008, 12:36 PM) *
Kate Winslet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon Stone but that's J M O


OH HELL YES. Se was the only redeeming factor of Titanic. Well, the 20 seconds we saw her boobs were halfway decent anyway.
Stormtrooper53
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Oct 22 2008, 02:36 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:34 PM) *
Yeah, but Jim Carey didn't turn in to a kick-ass secret agent. And I'm pretty sure there wasn't an "ZOMFG! Two chicks are kicking each other in the lolcat" fight, either.

NOW GET YOUR ASS TO MARS'D!!!!
Kate Winslet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon Stone but that's J M O

You totally missed the point

Sharon Stone getting kicked in the lolcat multiple times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate Winslet

I'll agree with the rest of your premise.
Hip-Hoptimus Rime
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:31 PM) *
Attempts to erase with alcohol memories of stuff you did when you were sober don't work out as well.


It's called "death by alcohol poisoning". truthy.png

And agreed on Kate Winslet vs Sharon Stone, altho w/ Sharon at her peak it might be a tougher call. To decide for sure, I'd have to "evaluate" them, both separately and together, in a bathtub filled with warm Jello. Orange.
Lord Madhammer
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Lord Madhammer @ Oct 22 2008, 02:36 PM) *
QUOTE (Stormtrooper53 @ Oct 22 2008, 02:34 PM) *
Yeah, but Jim Carey didn't turn in to a kick-ass secret agent. And I'm pretty sure there wasn't an "ZOMFG! Two chicks are kicking each other in the lolcat" fight, either.

NOW GET YOUR ASS TO MARS'D!!!!
Kate Winslet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharon Stone but that's J M O

You totally missed the point

Sharon Stone getting kicked in the lolcat multiple times >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kate Winslet

I'll agree with the rest of your premise.

Oh all right then. Carry on.
Asthaloth
Sold.

Right, seventeen years should do it.
Haggisjin
Smithers, use the amnesia ray.

You mean the revolver, sir?

Precisely. Be sure to wipe your own memory clear when you're finished. burns.png
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